有冇邊只牌子notebook可以退 跟機MS作業系統?

譬如話買返黎其實我會行其他OS, 例如 linux, 甘跟機只MS VISTA 有冇機會要notebook廠家收返同埋退返D錢? 想問一問有冇ching有過成功經驗,或者有冇法律界ching可以比D意見--系香港,消費者有冇黎個權利?
(國外就時不時有報導成功個案, 近排都聽講有地方DELL比退,所以想問一問,THX)

PS,
個問題好似都有D復雜, 之前linux版有討論過,  有觀點就系: 跟機MS作業系統其實系notebook廠“代”用家買的額外東西, 系兩個唔同product(其實都唔知法律上講系唔系甘).  (好似Macbook+Mac OS X, 同一家廠出, 加埋先系一個product. )

forget it la.............................

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冇得咁~_~一係就選擇d free dos/linux既版本唔好選擇d windows...但係當然比較少牌子可以選擇(大牌子如sony/lenovo/fujitsu冇記錯都冇既)

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search 了一下有件個案,
http://judelaw.pixnet.net/blog/post/24541973

如果系香港, 第一次開機時唔同意  EULA條款, 甘唔知之後可以點做?
notebook廠會不會要你連Hardware 一起退?

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you may buy lenovo in China, some of the computer are followed by DOS only.

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回覆 4# 的帖子

this is very interesting............but there is a sentence:

如果您不同意這些條款,應當在購買14天內,將整份未使用的產品(包含硬體與軟體)完整退回購買處,獲得全額退款。

Probably I will have to return the notebook and get nothing...

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仲有一件(好似未有結果)
Followings are from http://www.myblo.cn/iso/index.php/archives/62.html

丹麥FreeBSD開發者因“微軟稅”起訴聯想

丹麥FreeBSD開發者Poul-Henning Kamp (phk) 因為聯想公司拒絕退回Windows Vista Business的授權費(即所謂微軟稅)而提起訴訟。
根據微軟的最終用戶許可協議(EULA),如果用戶拒絕接受EULA,可以從銷售商那里退還“微軟稅”。Kamp購買了一台Thinkpad T400s筆記本,在安裝過程中拒絕了EULA,但聯想拒絕退錢,稱它銷售出的電腦是一個完整的產品,不可能因為單個組件而退錢,如電源或操作系統,即使 是用戶打算使用其它不同的操作系統。
類似的案件在歐洲或其它地方時有發生,宏基和惠普公司就曾被迫退還“微軟稅”。

[ 本帖最後由 olnabe 於 2009-9-3 23:50 編輯 ]

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this is very attractive as it is a refund of $200 US dollars .

While what Lenovo claimed........personally I agree to it.
銷售出的電腦是一個完整的產品, 不可能因為單個組件而退錢,如電源或操作系統,即使 是用戶打算使用其它不同的操作系統。

At the moment you buy the computer, you buy the whole set, including the hardware and software mentioned in the selling invoice.
It's really your own matter of using the OS followed or not.

[ 本帖最後由 ccw 於 2009-9-3 23:53 編輯 ]

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原帖由 ccw 於 2009-9-3 23:52 發表
this is very attractive as it is a refund of $200 US dollars .

While what Lenovo claimed........personally I agree to it.
銷售出的電腦是一個完整的產品, 不可能因為單個組件而退錢,如電源或操作系統,即使 是 ...

其實Lenovo都有同意退錢個案, $130, 但要簽保密約, 用家唔肯,暴咗出來
http://arstechnica.com/open-sour ... -without-an-nda.ars

我唸要睇翻EULA系點寫嘅, 丹麥果個系甘嘅:
By taking the software in use, you agree to these terms. If you do not accept the conditions, you have no right to use the software. Contact the manufacturer who installed the software to get information on how to get reimbursement for the purchase or a credit note.

甘樣寫好似有得告喔, 不過我唸新機器入邊 Lenovo應該會改EULA

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I see.
If $130 only.....forget it lu.....

我唸新機器入邊 Lenovo應該會改EULA
I think so.

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