作者: molamolamola 時間: 2019-7-31 22:44 標題: fiio k5pro 準備發售
大陸一線品牌 照顧所有用家需求
拓品 雙林三木麻煩了
作者: pallee 時間: 2019-7-31 23:27
Interesting. Hope it has two 4493 in mono mode.
作者: pallee 時間: 2019-7-31 23:36
K5PRO，為飛傲首款純解碼臺放，采用單AK4493解碼，超大功率輸出，6.35mm耳機孔，光纖/同軸輸入，能夠理解為K3的放大版，價錢實惠只要998元，將在8月底發售
What a pity. It is single 4493.
Price is very good. It can be a killer product …...
作者: molamolamola 時間: 2019-7-31 23:41
本帖最後由 molamolamola 於 2019-7-31 23:58 編輯
應該無了 有實會大大隻寫 4493x2
可惜對Fiio的運作/出貨方式開始有反感..
k5pro未見街
k7草圖都有了。 雙dac留俾佢.. 最緊要課金幾個月後出新款upgrade再課金..
作者: Lulumatthew 時間: 2019-8-1 00:10
回覆 4# molamolamola
Fiio is not a good business man........ Lucky u put this K7 information here
作者: pallee 時間: 2019-8-1 00:15
K7 is more attractive. It has dual 4497 and 4 wire balanced headphones out. If its price is good, it can beat UD-505.
作者: molamolamola 時間: 2019-8-1 00:31
回覆 6# pallee
yea . price will sure be attractive enough.. if one does not consider psychological values or brand value as a thing i guess... , not trying to compare it with foreign brands but Fiio is just so "China" even among chinese brands....
would rather spend same money on older chipped dac but foreign brands myself probably...
作者: molamolamola 時間: 2019-8-1 01:35
回覆 molamolamola
Fiio is not a good business man........ Lucky u put this K7 information her ...
Lulumatthew 發表於 2019-8-1 00:10
K5 k7 k9 k11 k15 kx... , ( all + pro) x2..
作者: pallee 時間: 2019-8-1 13:18
One 4493 chip is $ 30 only. I would rather Fiio putting two DAC chip (with true separated mono mode circuit) and selling the product $ 200 more.
作者: molamolamola 時間: 2019-8-1 16:13
本帖最後由 molamolamola 於 2019-8-1 16:15 編輯
One 4493 chip is $ 30 only. I would rather Fiio putting two DAC chip (with true separated mono mode ...
pallee 發表於 2019-8-1 13:18
you have your preference but personally i ve found chip implementation and analogue output stage is more prominent in affecting final sound.
my humble idea: adi-2 dac runs a single 4493 and is regarded as one of the best and would not change its model for years. and if you insist on full balanced inside out.. many pro interfaces with true balanced line out are available for not a lot of money in Thomann.
作者: pallee 時間: 2019-8-1 16:51
本帖最後由 pallee 於 2019-8-1 16:56 編輯
回覆 10# molamolamola
I agree to it fully. Circuit design is very important. Indeed it takes most of the cost of the product.
I don't mean that DAC chip is unimportant. It creates the signal source. Without a good signal source, you can do nothing afterwards. Good circuit design tries to process and maintain the signal as efficient as possible. But creation of signal still needs good starting point (tape -> Vinyl -> CD -> HD digital file).
I have used some DAC chips (CS, TI, ESS, AKM). New gen DACs improves a lot. The ratings of new DACs (9038, 4493, 4497) are much ahead to old DACs. Human ears can tell too.
I don't suggest to go back to old DAC chip if you play HD digital files (DSD, MQS, MQA).
作者: Consultant 時間: 2019-8-1 17:12
fiio 既市場策略根本痴線
産品分級太密, 出品周期又太密
會令支持者無所適從 同埋感到被背叛
而且因為出得太密分級太細, 産品每提升一級, 其真正提升甚微, 冇提升感
作者: molamolamola 時間: 2019-8-1 17:24
回覆 molamolamola
I agree to it fully. Circuit design is very important. Indeed it takes most of ...
pallee 發表於 2019-8-1 16:51
sure thing.
just saying but dont think many chip- oriented ppl would be interested in K5pro.. , would rather get a dc01 which runs dual 4493 as a dac (even it has amp stage already) then get a DIY balanced amp for similar $ i guess?
then a more interesting k7 with dual 4497 u ve mentioned and with that $, i rather spend on a 4499 even single may be , due to its four channel architecture. then a separated balanced amp? personally not minding if headphone out is balanced or not.. , balanced line outs to next stage then to speakers however are wanted..
newer the better , but some ppl i know keeping older dacs to play vinyl ripped files for a more vintage sound..
作者: pallee 時間: 2019-8-1 17:28
本帖最後由 pallee 於 2019-8-1 22:37 編輯
回覆 13# molamolamola
Vinyl doesn't need a DAC. It is an analog signal. Sorry for the confusion.
Separated DAC pre amp and power amp is a good config., especially when power amp is a tube amp.
作者: pallee 時間: 2019-8-1 17:30
本帖最後由 pallee 於 2019-8-1 18:12 編輯
回覆 14# pallee
4499 has a complete different design. It is a current output DAC, not voltage output DAC. 4499 needs I/V conversion.
Hence 4499 products are expected much more expensive.
作者: molamolamola 時間: 2019-8-1 17:58
回覆 molamolamola
Old DAC with Vinyl is OK. Vinyl S/N is low.
Separated DAC pre amp and power am ...
pallee 發表於 2019-8-1 17:28
yea. so Fiio's current K series are not that interesting afterall. both in price points & specs..
personally --- currently prefer all in 1 for headphone listening. and pure dac + separated pre amp + powered moniters with software to tune with dsp plugins.. , so interested in both kind of setup. :-)
4499 - yes it is different and superior in spec and design , 4497 can be skipped imo , 4493 jumps direct to 4499.. if one has budgets..
作者: b150ma 時間: 2019-8-2 08:00
fiio 既PC產品...你要自己搵播放器...無品牌播放器因電腦升級而另 fiio 產品無法在 PC上使用...唉~我擁有過佢地既產品...
作者: molamolamola 時間: 2019-8-2 14:08
回覆 17# b150ma
driver問題？ 無用過fiio 但有用過topping, 佢xmos driver（佢話thesycon訂制）都係好唔穩定... 問客服係廢...
作者: b150ma 時間: 2019-8-3 08:00
唔係driver問題，係播放器問題...沒有播放器就=用不到該裝備。
PC 自帶的播放器是無法發揮該裝備，driver + 播放器應該係產品公司所提供的...
唔係個個買家都咁專業，可以講買番黎係用唔到...要自己找播放器比佢...唉~