作者: astrial 時間: 2016-5-24 23:56 標題: 【開箱】HGST Touro Mobile
本帖最後由 astrial 於 2016-5-25 00:00 編輯
幫人買external hdd,原本打算買ADATA。去到黃金"Big One"見到HGST Touro系列,心諗desktop嘅HGST口碑一向唔錯,佢啲external hdd應該都ok,點知。。。
先開箱

普通包裝。2TB。唔係高效能Touro S

內容一眼睇晒
-HDD
-USB 3.0 cable
-Quick Starter Guide
-保養條文

泰國零件,中國裝嵌

漢科3年保

插機,只有一盞好簡單嘅白LED燈

一開CrystalDiskInfo,個餡係WD
Google一下,最接近嘅result:http://www.ebay.com/itm/WD20NMVW-11EDZS6-DCM-EHKTJHKB-Western-Digital-2TB-USB-2-5-Hard-Drive-/152067989198
等我仲以為買HGST external HDD內外都會係同一間公司
作者: peterma 時間: 2016-5-25 00:04
WD的話, 好大機會USB3.0都係一體化, 即係如果USB死左, 你想拆HD出黎用另外一個外置盒讀番資料都唔得
作者: imax 時間: 2016-5-25 01:07
外盒咁長未必係焊死嘅 。。不過 5200 轉就慢 D
作者: red_devil 時間: 2016-5-25 02:37
雖然 HGST, WD 係同公司,
但如果寫明 HGST Touro, 裡面就應該用返 HGST,
否則即係呃人 ?
作者: astrial 時間: 2016-5-25 08:50
咁但係,WD MyBook入面係HGST碟,又點計先?
唔通ADATA external hdd個餡亦要係ADATA?
其實佢入面唔係HGST我冇所謂,最驚係用USB PCB board而唔係SATA頭。自己中過伏,真心唔想再賴嘢
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作者: pc1668 時間: 2016-5-25 08:53
本帖最後由 pc1668 於 2016-5-25 08:58 編輯
回覆 1# astrial
I've an A-DATA 2TB portable HDD with a TOSHIBA MQ01ABB200 being embedded.
Does your Touro support sleep mode (spin down in 5~10 mins of inactivity) ?
Btw, 漢科 maintenance service is quite good.
作者: astrial 時間: 2016-5-25 09:12
回覆 astrial
I've an A-DATA 2TB portable HDD with a TOSHIBA MQ01ABB200 being embedded.
Does your ...
pc1668 發表於 2016-5-25 08:53
I will check it out later as i am outside now
Is there any software that can check this?
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作者: KinChungE 時間: 2016-5-25 09:15
佢自己有出HDD唔代表一定要用
就算佢入面放隻Seagate落去, 你都冇佢符
買10隻, 10隻俾唔同型號HDD你都仲得
作者: pc1668 時間: 2016-5-25 09:34
本帖最後由 pc1668 於 2016-5-25 09:36 編輯
I will check it out later as i am outside now
Is there any software that can check this?
via LG ...
astrial 發表於 2016-5-25 09:12
Just connect it to a PC or NAS, wait for 5~10 mins without doing anything (and make sure no app would access the portable hdd). If the LED goes off, it does spin down.
I've 3 portable HDDs :
ADATA HV620 - does not spin down
Transcend 25H3 and 25A3 - spin down in 5~10 mins of inactivity
作者: computer1975 時間: 2016-5-25 10:17
HGST 2.5"最高1.5T
作者: astrial 時間: 2016-5-25 10:21
本帖最後由 astrial 於 2016-5-25 10:22 編輯
咁今次真係可能pk了。。。呢部好大可能係漢科保嘅WD external,9成應該係USB PCB board
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作者: anon893 時間: 2016-5-25 12:52
Not anymore, it's been discontinued
作者: astrial 時間: 2016-5-25 14:18
Just connect it to a PC or NAS, wait for 5~10 mins without doing anything (and make sure no app wo ...
pc1668 發表於 2016-5-25 09:34
Just tried at home, connected to a 5th Gen i5 NUC, it seems to able to spin down.
When I first plug in the LED is solid white. After a while the LED is blinking at regular interval
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作者: pc1668 時間: 2016-5-25 14:22
Still not sure, until you have dismantled it.
作者: pc1668 時間: 2016-5-25 14:24
Just tried at home, connected to a 5th Gen i5 NUC, it seems to able to spin down.
When I first plug in the LED is solid white. After a while the LED is blinking at regular interval
astrial 發表於 2016-5-25 14:18
ic. then most likely it supports spin down.
btw, the led of my transcend portable hdd goes off (not blinking) in 5~10 mins of inactivity.
作者: red_devil 時間: 2016-5-25 15:01
我自己唔係好明尼個 HD 算係咩商品條例...........
----> "外面標明牌子係 Ferrari,就算入面engine 放 Hyundai
落去,你都冇佢符,買10隻,10 隻比唔同型號 engine 你都仲得" ?
但 HD 行業全世界大體只縮剩2間廠? (WD & Seagate),自然佢地玩曬,
HD 市場就繼續沒落......
作者: red_devil 時間: 2016-5-25 15:04
既然冇法例規定佢裡面就擺乜都得啦,
又變抽獎。。。。。
作者: red_devil 時間: 2016-5-25 15:13
Ferrari 同 Fiat 都係同公司,
但如果 599 GTO 裡面個 engine
擺左 Fiat 500c 個 engine 落去,
出面都應該寫明,唔係你買左架車自己 check 先知,
車 同 HD 當然不同,
比喻下搞下笑姐................
作者: pc1668 時間: 2016-5-25 16:23
quite interesting 比喻 ...
作者: usei 時間: 2016-5-25 17:24
HDD 廠已經準備收工

WD 買 sandisk
Toshiba 本身有 nand 廠
作者: kenlau 時間: 2016-5-25 17:34
佢又無講明入面用HGST HD, 咁點算呃你?
以你講法, samsung 電話cpu 入面一定要三星出?...Dell 電腦入面所有part 都要dell 出?
作者: KinChungE 時間: 2016-5-25 18:14
佢冇講明, 鍾意俾咩你都得
但係如果佢講明用某款, 突然轉左又唔通知你, 咁佢就奶野
買LCD TV都會唔同批次用唔同Panel啦
我N年前買LG DVD/HDD錄影機, 佢入面竟然係用Panasonic DVD Writer添

而買Magic TV, 入面隻HDD都有Hitachi亦有Toshiba
作者: lbjames 時間: 2016-5-25 18:23
Ext hdd 好似多數只講幾多轉 (5400, 7200), 好少講明用咩款(WD都會比green/blue)
作者: 556556bt 時間: 2016-5-25 18:26
幫人買external hdd,原本打算買ADATA。去到黃金"Big One"見到HGST Touro系列,心諗desktop嘅HGST口碑一向 ...
astrial 發表於 2016-5-24 23:56
WD... 即係唔係日立........... HGST 料.. 噢..
作者: K_C_ 時間: 2016-5-25 18:34
真係架!!未聽過英國Lotus Elise入面行Toyota偈??

http://www.autocar.co.uk/car-review/first-drives/lotus-elise-s
只要displacement, power, torque....etc (耗油量就....
作者: red_devil 時間: 2016-5-25 18:55
真係架!!未聽過英國Lotus Elise入面行Toyota偈??
只要displacement, power, torque....etc (耗油量 ...
K_C_ 發表於 2016-5-25 18:34
先寫明係 Toyota偈可以,
唔係買左架車返來架架engine 唔同等於抽獎.....?
作者: red_devil 時間: 2016-5-25 18:57
好奇有冇人買 Seagate External HD,
返來 check 先發覺抽獎裡面係 HGST......?
作者: red_devil 時間: 2016-5-25 19:01
見樓主說法,明顯是同一想法,
所以先會特登選買
HGST Touro, 跟住就賴野(原來入面係 WD....)
可能樓主當時買返 AData,
反而會抽到入面係 HGST.......
作者: anon893 時間: 2016-5-25 19:52
真係架!!未聽過英國Lotus Elise入面行Toyota偈??
只要displacement, power, torque....etc (耗油量 ...
K_C_ 發表於 2016-5-25 06:34 PM
2GR-FE, yes...
But will Lotus eventually switch to 2GR-FKS as well?
(Sorry for OT)
作者: astrial 時間: 2016-5-25 20:39
其實個餡係咩廠真係無所謂,貼牌OEM我都ok。最驚係WD啲死人USB PCB board
WD My Passport中過招,有得揀都唔想再用。以我所知,ADATA三防系列同Toshiba都係咁。反而cheap cheap ADATA HV620唔係。之前兩次幫人買HV620都冇事,下次真係唔熟都唔買
作者: red_devil 時間: 2016-5-25 20:57
依家睇
WD My Passport & HGST Touro
除外表殼不同樣,應該係完全一樣同一架,
所以你都唔洗霖。。。。
作者: imax 時間: 2016-5-25 23:53
點解唔打去漢科問清楚, 係咪一體化呢 ?
作者: smoke_cheese 時間: 2016-5-26 02:33
有人拆過啦,仲抽中HGST
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UASTdM0a3I0
[youtube]UASTdM0a3I0[/youtube]
作者: red_devil 時間: 2016-5-26 03:03
照睇,
Touro 1TB 還算有機會抽中返 HGST,
但 2TB, 3TB 就會係 WD..........
作者: halo0026 時間: 2016-5-26 03:19
WD都收購左HGST, Hitachi有生產1TB咪用hitachi. Hitachi自家無生產2TB嘅咪順理成章用返已經係自己友嘅WD Harddisk都算合理嘅, 好彩呢款都仲係SATA PCB, 如果跟足WD用USB PCB就煩啦!
作者: red_devil 時間: 2016-5-26 05:25
WD都收購左HGST, Hitachi有生產1TB咪用 hitachi. Hitachi自家無生產2TB嘅咪順理成章用返已經係自己友嘅WD Ha ...
halo0026 發表於 2016-5-26 03:19
已確定 HGST Touro 用 SATA PCB ?
而 WD Elements/My Passport
就用 USB PCB ?
問問 SATA PCB 比 USB PCB
分別和優勝於那方面?
作者: astrial 時間: 2016-5-26 07:25
本帖最後由 astrial 於 2016-5-26 09:43 編輯
今次真。PK了,同WD My Passport係同一個餡

留意model no “WD20NMVW",係同CrystalDiskInfo讀Touro Mobile前半段一樣
圖片出處:http://m.hexus.net/tech/reviews/ ... assport-2tb-usb-30/
內文寫明係用USB PCB board
點解WD要整呢啲電子垃圾出嚟
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作者: red_devil 時間: 2016-5-26 16:08
已提過依家 HD 大體剩番2間廠 (WD & Seagate),
你剩返可以試 Seagate 係咪唔係 USB PCB.....?
作者: pc1668 時間: 2016-5-26 16:18
回覆 37# astrial
Similar to WD My Passport
As far as I know, My Passport is very fragile and prone to premature failure

作者: astrial 時間: 2016-5-26 16:23
回覆 39# pc1668
回覆 38# red_devil
今次真係捉蟲入屎忽
認真考慮緊好唔好賣咗佢再買返ADATA HV620。。。
作者: pc1668 時間: 2016-5-26 16:49
本帖最後由 pc1668 於 2016-5-26 17:02 編輯
Oops, I've an adata hv620 2TB
Are you sure it's using SATA PCB
Anyway, I've checked this review. The chance of using SATA PCB is there (though I'm still not that sure)
http://www.tweaktown.com/reviews ... e-review/index.html
USB 3.0 to SATA bridge controller 是 VLI(VIA Labs, Inc.) VL701-T4
http://www.pcdvd.com.tw/showthread.php?p=1084480789
作者: astrial 時間: 2016-5-26 17:01
Oops, I've an adata hv620 2TB
Are you sure it's using SATA PCB
Anyway, I've checked th ...
pc1668 發表於 2016-5-26 16:49
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QpOHwbyrDhA
3:01開始睇
作者: pc1668 時間: 2016-5-26 17:04
本帖最後由 pc1668 於 2016-5-26 17:06 編輯
Excellent, HV620 2TB has a 2.5" HDD with standard sata port
Actually I'm thinking to take out the 2TB for NAS use (internal). Pretty cheap considering it's a 2.5" 2TB !
作者: halo0026 時間: 2016-5-26 17:07
本帖最後由 halo0026 於 2016-5-26 17:16 編輯
ADATA HV620, 用嘅係Toshiba MQ01ABB200 2TB, 仍然係SATA PCB, 我另外有個ADATA NH13, 用Samsung ST2000LM003 2TB, 都係SATA PCB, Samsung已經被Seagate收購左, 聽講Seagate Backup Plus都係用同系HD, 但唔確定一定同ADATA一樣係SATA PCB, 似乎要買SATA PCB嘅就揀ADATA穩陣D.
作者: macis 時間: 2016-5-26 17:13
買HGST比WD, 買WD比HGST
作者: macis 時間: 2016-5-26 17:17
係Samsung
作者: astrial 時間: 2016-5-26 17:18
Excellent, HV620 2TB has a 2.5" HDD with standard sata port
Actually I'm thinking to take ...
pc1668 發表於 2016-5-26 17:04
that's what i don't understand, the USB-SATA bridge can be made so thin, that size/space is not really a concern... WD is really trying milk every cent out of our pockets
作者: macis 時間: 2016-5-26 17:20
買ADATA仲捉蟲
作者: astrial 時間: 2016-5-26 17:21
ADATA HV620, 用嘅係Toshiba MQ01ABB200 2TB, 仍然係SATA PCB, 我另外有個ADATA NH13, 用Samsung ST2000LM0 ...
halo0026 發表於 2016-5-26 17:07
ADATA都要check清楚,佢啲三防系列係用USB PCB board
不過呢個用USB PCB board就合理,要做三防當然係越少零件越好
作者: pc1668 時間: 2016-5-26 17:23
why said so
作者: macis 時間: 2016-5-26 17:24
所以話買ADATA仲捉蟲
作者: pc1668 時間: 2016-5-26 17:25
i...c
Don't know if my transcend 25H3 (three-stage shock protection system that meets U.S. military drop-test standards) is using SATA PCB or USB PCB ...
作者: pc1668 時間: 2016-5-26 17:26
that's what i don't understand, the USB-SATA bridge can be made so thin, that size/space is not really a concern... WD is really trying milk every cent out of our pockets
astrial 發表於 2016-5-26 17:18
I will always stay away from WD portable hdds (such as my passport) ... pretty bad user feedback
作者: pc1668 時間: 2016-5-26 17:28
ADATA HV620, 用嘅係Toshiba MQ01ABB200 2TB, 仍然係SATA PCB, 我另外有個ADATA NH13, 用Samsung ST2000LM003 2TB, 都係SATA PCB, Samsung已經被Seagate收購左, 聽講Seagate Backup Plus都係用同系HD, 但唔確定一定同ADATA一樣係SATA PCB, 似乎要買SATA PCB嘅就揀ADATA穩陣D.
halo0026 發表於 2016-5-26 17:07
"似乎要買SATA PCB嘅就揀ADATA穩陣D" ... right, tks
作者: astrial 時間: 2016-5-26 17:30
都係果句啦,買之前做功課
我今次就係衰在臨陣換model
作者: pc1668 時間: 2016-5-26 17:33
Btw, it has 3-yrs of warranty. If you've no planning to remove the hdd for some other purposes, it should work as design ... for at least 3-yrs.
作者: halo0026 時間: 2016-5-26 18:19
你指ADATA三防係咪即係HD720, 但我睇拆解圖似係獨立嘅SATA PCB, 有錯請指正.
https://www.hkepc.com/forum/attachment.php?aid=1892698&k=1448686923900b210da99a20097e2075&t=1782245716&sid=L2TPB9TsEK

作者: pc1668 時間: 2016-5-26 18:25
It seems adata portable hdd is not bad
作者: astrial 時間: 2016-5-26 18:37
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WPthTwW2UA4
2:10開始睇,真係拆咗隻bridge出嚟
睇嚟以後買2.5" external唔駛諗
作者: halo0026 時間: 2016-5-26 18:45
回覆 59# astrial
即係現有市場賣的ADATA External HD都係用SATA PCB.
https://www.hkepc.com/forum/attachment.php?aid=1892711&k=318a4bd2e4002aa5d8660088994cf0a7&t=1782245716&sid=L2TPB9TsEK

作者: diy-apprentice 時間: 2016-5-26 18:51
我係用另一個方法去印證HDD的,就係用CrystalDisk看到HDD的型號,再搜尋一下這型號,是否標準的SATA接頭,假如係USB接口的,應該係另類的型號。
作者: pc1668 時間: 2016-5-26 19:02
Very good !
Now I know, I've made the right decision, buying the HV620 2TB
作者: astrial 時間: 2016-5-26 23:32
本帖最後由 astrial 於 2016-5-26 23:35 編輯
i...c
Don't know if my transcend 25H3 (three-stage shock protection system that meets U.S. milita ...
pc1668 發表於 2016-5-26 17:25
[youtube]q4UyF99WaLw[/youtube]
1:58... the bridge is shown clearly, even though it was not taken off
so貼牌廠 is the better option in the future
作者: pc1668 時間: 2016-5-27 08:14
[youtube]q4UyF99WaLw[/youtube]
1:58... the bridge is shown clearly, even though it was not taken off
so貼牌廠 is the better option in the future
astrial 發表於 2016-5-26 23:32
That's great! Then the transcend and adata portable hdds are safe shopping products. And better stay away from wd my passport and hgst touro. Tks for your info
作者: Victor168 時間: 2016-5-27 21:19
師兄請問隻WD MyBook 8tb入面係未SATA頭?
作者: red_devil 時間: 2016-5-27 22:39
Very good !
Now I know, I've made the right decision, buying the HV620 2TB
pc1668 發表於 2016-5-26 19:02
how about HV620 3TB ?
作者: astrial 時間: 2016-5-27 22:40
印象中3.5"未有呢個情況
作者: pc1668 時間: 2016-5-27 22:55
All I know is, HV620 3TB is thicker than the 2TB. I would believe the 3TB is also having a SATA PCB (but not 100% sure).
作者: halo0026 時間: 2016-5-28 01:27
本帖最後由 halo0026 於 2016-5-28 01:33 編輯
回覆 68# pc1668
ADATA HV620 3TB同2TB尺寸係一樣, 2TB用Toshiba MQ01ABB200, 3TB相信應該會用Toshiba MQ03ABB300, 所以好大可能會係SATA PCB.
500GB / 1TB:115 x 78 x 15mm ( 4.5 x 3.1 x 0.6 in )
2TB / 3TB: 115 x 78mm x 21mm ( 4.5 x 3.1 x 0.8 in )
作者: red_devil 時間: 2016-5-28 02:09
All I know is, HV620 3TB is thicker than the 2TB. I would believe the 3TB is also having a SATA ...
pc1668 發表於 2016-5-27 22:55
總括,要有機會 SATA PCB,
只有 Adata & Transcend
有可能....
作者: halo0026 時間: 2016-5-28 03:49
Buffalo都應該係SATA PCB, 而多數用嘅係Seagate HD.
作者: red_devil 時間: 2016-5-28 04:54
而 3 個牌子 (Adata, Transcend, Buffalo )
都係自己本身唔製造 HD 的(?)
真諷刺............
作者: red_devil 時間: 2016-5-28 04:56
本帖最後由 red_devil 於 2016-5-28 04:58 編輯
USB PCB 其實真係甘垃圾?
作者: astrial 時間: 2016-5-28 10:10
本帖最後由 astrial 於 2016-5-28 10:19 編輯
平時用其實無分別
問題係如果可能touch wood咁黑仔隻碟瓜咗嘅話,用USB SATA bridge可以拆出嚟插電腦,救data又好,轉做internal drive又好,USB PCB嘅碟係完全做唔到
作者: kelvinchm 時間: 2016-5-28 10:33
Touro mobile我都介紹左隻俾fd做backup
不過佢唔識又唔緊張電腦野,又暫時無嘈過,咁就由佢算
作者: peterma 時間: 2016-5-28 10:54
本帖最後由 peterma 於 2016-5-28 11:27 編輯
但有趣的是Seagate的就反而有機會是用三叔HD
作者: astrial 時間: 2016-5-28 11:35
三叔HDD已經被死雞買起
即係等於WD同HGST關係
作者: red_devil 時間: 2016-5-28 18:42
但尼度之前有師兄話唔只係甘,
USB PCB 比較會更 fragile 會有 premature failure ?
個個牌子去曬用 USB PCB 應該自然係成本平d......?
當然唔會理你方便可以拆出來用.....
作者: astrial 時間: 2016-5-28 19:38
但尼度之前有師兄話唔只係甘,
USB PCB 比較會更 fragile 會有 premature failure ?
個個牌子去曬用 US ...
red_devil 發表於 2016-5-28 18:42
係唔係易壞我冇研究
其實即係等於電話用內置電vs可換電
不過hdd係有機會做backup,有得揀梗係用bridge,救data易搞好多
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作者: kenkwong 時間: 2016-5-29 10:49
我都中左招....我成個月前買又係2T 2.5" HGST Touro Mobile. 一心為HGST而買, 點知唔係. 因為一買返黎就插落NAS去24/7 BT, 都無CHECK過係乜涵....
作者: pc1668 時間: 2016-5-29 11:24
本帖最後由 pc1668 於 2016-5-29 11:44 編輯
我都中左招....我成個月前買又係2T 2.5" HGST Touro Mobile. 一心為HGST而買, 點知唔係. 因為一買返黎就插落NAS去24/7 BT, 都無CHECK過係乜涵....
kenkwong 發表於 2016-5-29 10:49
My primary usage of the portable HDDs is for data backup. USB HDD with NTFS format is a combo that I trust in. Another usage of portable hdd is for Magic TV 7x24 recording.
As BT really hurts (I always believe), I've a dedicated 8-yrs old WD green (expendable) installed in NAS to serve the purpose.
作者: astrial 時間: 2016-5-29 13:55
我自己覺得BT用都ok,死咗最多重新B過
但係如果係backup用,一係多一份backup,一係完全唔好用
作者: kenkwong 時間: 2016-5-29 15:03
我另外有3個獨立BACKUP,主要是家庭照片。貪2.5"細細舊又唔使額外電源。
B死左就算,所以先買HGST。。。點知出HDD牌子用左另外的HDD,以為同其他貼牌貨唔同架。
作者: pc1668 時間: 2016-5-30 09:13
我另外有3個獨立BACKUP,主要是家庭照片。貪2.5"細細舊又唔使額外電源。
B死左就算,所以先買HGST。。。點知出HDD牌子用左另外的HDD,以為同其他貼牌貨唔同架
kenkwong 發表於 2016-5-29 15:03
Before the acquisition of HGST by WD :
As a HDD manufacturer itself, I would expect HGST portable hdd to be embedding either HGST or Toshiba HDD.
After the acquisition of HGST by WD :
We're entering lucky draw
作者: imax 時間: 2016-6-2 16:28
回復 1 #astrial
噚晚落黃金買嘢,順便留意 Touro 5400轉,拎 dummy比對,發覺新貨短咗好多,我記得上年係好長咯,新貨 Touro 拍埋 WD 竟然一樣長度,WD 屬於最短身嗰隻,WD 全銲死,依 WD 長度可推測係咪銲死冇 SATA ,拍埋 Touro S.....Touro S 係長啲咖
作者: anon893 時間: 2016-6-2 18:06
My primary usage of the portable HDDs is for data backup. USB HDD with NTFS format is a combo that I trust in. Another usage of portable hdd is for Magic TV 7x24 recording.
pc1668 發表於 2016-5-29 11:24 AM
Must agree, even with HDDs that are subjected to Mac usage, I'll put it in NTFS and have the OSX run on embedded (3rd party) NTFS drivers instead
Of course there's a disadvantage doing so, but at least it's better than having an exFAT partition locked up and rendered read-only (while rescuing such partition with chkdsk /F can be a 55波)
Of course, case has to be taken with MTV usage since some older models only support EXT/2 formatting, and that the HDD concerned should not be permanently connected to the said device

