作者: yankees 時間: 2017-10-31 00:53 標題: 新手買 nas, QNAP 431p2 OK ?
普通用, 無特別 performance 要求, 近期黎講 4bay nas 最抵係咪佢 ? (2300左右)
QNAP 噤唔噤用 ? 用3-5年得唔得 ?
作者: edgeyim 時間: 2017-10-31 01:11
如果你無好好彩地買中廠方幾年就停止upgrade的model,
咁3-5年係無問題的,當然若然你抽中機王,咁就難講了。
作者: yankees 時間: 2017-10-31 01:42
無得upgrade 可能小d function 用姐, 但係唔會話用唔到掛
機王就無得講嘅.....買電子野好撞手神
btw 比你咁講1講....問多聲 QNAP d QC 如何
作者: edgeyim 時間: 2017-10-31 02:15
善用搜索功能吧…
作者: hahakei 時間: 2017-10-31 12:07
加少少上intel cpu 吧
作者: HKEPC852 時間: 2017-10-31 13:42
上intel cpu,打爆16gb ram,ssd cache,玩vm
作者: kofz 時間: 2017-10-31 16:00
想用耐d
我都建議咁
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作者: 9658@transperth 時間: 2017-10-31 22:30
451A呢期抵玩咗
同31p2 唔算爭太多 差六舊水左右
作者: pc1668 時間: 2017-10-31 23:19
451A's embedded Celeron N3060 is good enough for ordinary home use
作者: 9658@transperth 時間: 2017-11-1 00:20
N3060
對於一般Home soho user黎講
係夠做嘅
多Data嘅話 揀4Bay
個價位差距都ok
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作者: pc1668 時間: 2017-11-5 09:31
本帖最後由 pc1668 於 2017-11-5 09:44 編輯
Recently bought the 431P2 (expanded to 8GB ram) as a secondary/backup NAS for home use. The Annapurna Labs AL-314 is quite responsive
ps. My primary NAS is 216+II with 8GB ram
TS-431P2
https://www.hkepc.com/forum/attachment.php?aid=2021671&k=01412e3e5adb68a59a31ae688cb7bf35&t=1780796312&sid=2sW9E8gPDd

作者: hahakei 時間: 2017-11-5 09:38
Recently bought the 431P2 (expanded to 8GB ram) as a secondary/backup NAS for home use. The Annapur ...
pc1668 發表於 2017-11-5 09:31
幾錢入手?
作者: pc1668 時間: 2017-11-5 09:39
本帖最後由 pc1668 於 2017-11-5 09:54 編輯
23xx at wanchai comp center
Initially wanted to get the DS418 (or even DS418play). As a secondary/backup NAS, it seems QNAP's mid-low options are more attractive ...
https://www.hkepc.com/forum/attachment.php?aid=2021675&k=a77dbde50ec8c08971144646a5fa84d3&t=1780796312&sid=2sW9E8gPDd

作者: dds 時間: 2017-11-5 10:34
回覆 11# pc1668
原裝跟機1GB Ram?
upgrade to 8gb ram, 要唔要$600?
成set野(with ram upgrade),差唔多3K.
作者: pc1668 時間: 2017-11-5 10:55
本帖最後由 pc1668 於 2017-11-5 11:18 編輯
回覆 pc1668
原裝跟機1GB Ram?
upgrade to 8gb ram, 要唔要$600?
成set野(with ram upgrade) ...
dds 發表於 2017-11-5 10:34
"原裝跟機1GB Ram? "
Yes
"upgrade to 8gb ram, 要唔要$600?"
I've bought the kingston DDR3L 8GB (KVR16LS11_8) a year ago at $320. Now it asks for $530 !
"成set野(with ram upgrade),差唔多3K."
2320 + 530 = 2850
As QTS is more 大食 than DSM, upgrade to 8GB is a 'must'

ARM cpu device with the capability to upgrade memory is a very welcome feature
ps. will post a few pics sometime later
作者: pc1668 時間: 2017-11-5 20:30
本帖最後由 pc1668 於 2017-11-5 21:23 編輯
回覆 14# dds
TS-431P2 memory upgrade
https://www.hkepc.com/forum/attachment.php?aid=2021753&k=617b3c3781ff17ace07d237b63694bff&t=1780796312&sid=2sW9E8gPDd

https://www.hkepc.com/forum/attachment.php?aid=2021754&k=3b4c1d34e35e402100a65293de343a1c&t=1780796312&sid=2sW9E8gPDd

作者: wa124 時間: 2017-11-6 00:44
回覆 11# pc1668
識貨
AL CPU好野黎
SATA全部原生,效能好好多!
作者: pc1668 時間: 2017-11-6 08:20
This is my first time to use AL CPU ... quite satisfied with 431P2's overall performance
Btw, may I know how to setup snapshot
作者: testcb00 時間: 2017-11-6 09:41
回覆 17# wa124
ching 請問如何分辨原生/非原生sata?
作者: pctine 時間: 2017-11-6 10:37
回覆 19# testcb00
一般睇 cpu datasheet 就知道有多少原生 sata port. 或者睇 pcb 有冇 sata controller chip 就知.
作者: testcb00 時間: 2017-11-6 16:35
回覆 20# pctine
即是要睇sata backpanel 有沒asmedia/marvell Pcie to sata chip?
作者: wa124 時間: 2017-11-7 00:50
回覆 21# testcb00
其實拆開隻機,睇下底板有冇SATA Chips就知道
Synology 4Bay常用ASM1061
QNAP/Asustor 4Bay常用ASM1062
marvell 係QNAP多Bay數機種會常見D
AL-314可以出4 x SATA 6Gbps / 8 x SATA 6Gbps
內建有埋10G Controller,不過要加粒chipset轉返做SFP+頭先用得
所以QNAP先會有出TS-431X2,價錢會貴TS-431P2少少
作者: wa124 時間: 2017-11-7 00:52
回覆 18# pc1668
QNAP Facebook有轉貼教學文章,你可以去睇睇
BTW....你果隻機要上左QTS4.3.4再起Storage Pool 先支援Snapshot...
作者: pc1668 時間: 2017-11-7 08:27
回覆 pc1668
QNAP Facebook有轉貼教學文章,你可以去睇睇
BTW....你果隻機要上左QTS4.3.4再起Storage Pool 先支援Snapshot...
wa124 發表於 2017-11-7 00:52
okok, tks
作者: beggar1210 時間: 2017-11-7 12:09
One question, for the similar price, is TS251 a better choice since it uses Intel CPU?
作者: 9658@transperth 時間: 2017-11-7 12:30
本帖最後由 9658@transperth 於 2017-11-7 13:08 編輯
回覆 25# beggar1210
如果你著重media嘅話
作者: pc1668 時間: 2017-11-7 12:56
本帖最後由 pc1668 於 2017-11-7 13:34 編輯
One question, for the similar price, is TS251 a better choice since it uses Intel CPU?
beggar1210 發表於 2017-11-7 12:09
It depends on your usage. For instance, if encryption (volume or folder) is required, x31P2 would be a better choice.
Test scenario :
- upload 1TB of data to NAS
- avg file size between 1 to 3 GB
x51 (or any model running J1800)
without the support of AES-NI
cpu usage would be always reaching 99%
x31P2
with hardware encryption engine
cpu usage would be at about 2x-3x%
If multimedia is your requirement, x51 might be a better choice. However, J1800 is still a bit weak (兩頭唔到岸) in handling such area.
ps. I am using volume encryption in 431P2.
作者: dds 時間: 2017-11-7 18:39
回覆 27# pc1668
見大家咁高興, 我又由SSP檯咗set返屋企玩.
出一出街,TS-431P2 & 8GB RAM 咁就無咗近3K野.

作者: dds 時間: 2017-11-7 18:46
回覆 25# beggar1210
I got both 251a 2bay & 431P2 4bay (bought today)
要玩multi-media, 都係買返ts251a.
431P2,加到8GB Ram, 差唔多成3K.
要4bay, 又要multimedia, 就 TS451A,
不過, ts451a, 算係舊款鳥.
利申:買呢部431P2, 打算要嚟一野replace 3部NAS
1. D116,
2. TS251A
3. HP Gen7
作者: pc1668 時間: 2017-11-7 20:59
本帖最後由 pc1668 於 2017-11-7 21:00 編輯
Congratulations
And you have updated to 4.3.4 beta. So far so good

ps. I'm running 4.3.3 production version
作者: pc1668 時間: 2017-11-7 21:00
回覆 beggar1210
利申:買呢部431P2, 打算要嚟一野replace 3部NAS
1. D116,
2. TS251A
3. HP Gen7
dds 發表於 2017-11-7 18:46
"一野replace 3部NAS"
But the 251A is still good, right
作者: dds 時間: 2017-11-7 21:26
回覆 31# pc1668
部ts251a,好多function用唔着,又唔想handle 太多devices
再加上個BB Router得4個LAN Port, 睇餸食飯.
作者: dds 時間: 2017-11-7 21:31
回覆 30# pc1668
個4.3.4 beta firmware, 都幾stable, 仍然file copying中
web server個part, host緊幾個online shop, 返應都幾快,
無話點lag.
無打算行raid, snapshort, 因為自己見唔熟,
最多勤力d做backup.
作者: pc1668 時間: 2017-11-7 21:32
本帖最後由 pc1668 於 2017-11-7 22:23 編輯
回覆 pc1668
部ts251a,好多function用唔着,又唔想handle 太多devices
再加上個BB Router得4個LAN Port, 睇餸食飯.
dds 發表於 2017-11-7 21:26
As mentioned, I'm using 216+II and 431P2. It's now more than enough.
4-port is for sure not enough. I've a Netgear GS308 8-port Giga-switch
作者: pc1668 時間: 2017-11-7 21:37
回覆 pc1668
個4.3.4 beta firmware, 都幾stable, 仍然file copying中
web server個part, host緊幾個online shop, 返應都幾快,
無話點lag.
無打算行raid, snapshort, 因為自己見唔熟,
最多勤力d做backup.
dds 發表於 2017-11-7 21:31
ok then i may update to 4.3.4 sometime later
and yes, this AL314 is quite ok
作者: pomkon 時間: 2017-11-7 23:22
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作者: dds 時間: 2017-11-7 23:36
回覆 36# pomkon
各有各好用,我估都唔少人買齊S and Q.
作者: pctine 時間: 2017-11-8 19:13
SATA chip 唔一定喺 backplane 底板, 我睇過 synology 4 bay nas 一般都喺主板.
作者: pc1668 時間: 2017-11-11 21:23
本帖最後由 pc1668 於 2017-11-11 21:28 編輯
回覆 pc1668
個4.3.4 beta firmware, 都幾stable, 仍然file copying中
web server個part, host緊幾 ...
dds 發表於 2017-11-7 21:31
Right after the installation of 4.3.4 beta, the resource monitor shows ...
I've to shutdown and power up 431P2 to resolve the problem
https://www.hkepc.com/forum/attachment.php?aid=2023089&k=c998916843d5329c3d8932b126acab0d&t=1780796312&sid=2sW9E8gPDd

https://www.hkepc.com/forum/attachment.php?aid=2023091&k=9ad77f467e159c42a0f6de8c7a5c751c&t=1780796312&sid=2sW9E8gPDd

作者: dds 時間: 2017-11-11 21:46
回覆 39# pc1668
我又無呢個問題. 係早幾日,個q boost狂R頭,
話'insufficient memory'. 應該係false alarm,
琴日q boost出咗update, up後無事.
https://www.hkepc.com/forum/attachment.php?aid=2023096&k=c73efabc5f088852589c8d42b9a40204&t=1780796312&sid=2sW9E8gPDd

作者: pc1668 時間: 2017-11-17 12:25
4.3.4.0387 (Beta2) build 20171116 released
作者: dds 時間: 2017-11-17 12:56
回覆 41# pc1668
剛剛up咗,
對上一個firmware, media index build-up,
下下都話mysqld 用得太盡memory, 停咗indexing.
(條8gb 比咗部251a用, 部431p2,現用4gb),
如果最新個firmware都做唔到media index的話,
真係要換返條8gb 比部431p2, 部431p2,
未做qsirch index. photo,doc,movie,music, 加埋
10GB,file/folder數量,都唔知幾多/
要做index的話,係heavy task.
https://www.hkepc.com/forum/attachment.php?aid=2024165&k=a1e1036eed639a59cb10ac5a9374ab67&t=1780796312&sid=2sW9E8gPDd

作者: pc1668 時間: 2017-11-17 15:08
回覆 42# dds
your NASes are so busy


