標題: [Windows 10] 微軟向 Chrome 用家發送彈出式廣告 [打印本頁]

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作者: lyjhf2006    時間: 2024-3-20 19:54     標題: 微軟向 Chrome 用家發送彈出式廣告

https://www.hkepc.com/22233/%E5% ... B%E5%BC%95%E6%93%8E

大家彈出來未？
有毛解決方案

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作者: chue    時間: 2024-3-20 20:51

唔用 WINDOWS

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作者: 1597532468000    時間: 2024-3-20 21:26

M$本身就係malicious software
win7時代幾乎冇呢d野 係由咖喱佬接手開始變流氓

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作者: javacomhk    時間: 2024-3-20 23:56

呢個 hkepc forum 都彈出廣告啦，有乜咁奇！

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作者: archivestar    時間: 2024-3-21 09:40

流氓

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作者: Okt04175    時間: 2024-3-21 15:33


作為一個電腦系統都去學埋晒強國啲流氓管家軟體咁玩彈窗就唔應該，用滋擾人方式Sell嘢就抵鬧。

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作者: daemongmong    時間: 2024-3-21 15:49


每次開機時刪除c:\windows\temp內檔案。

via HKEPC IR 5.1.14 - iOS(5.1.1F)

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作者: Aÿ    時間: 2024-3-21 15:50

依家都算有良心
可能遲D會似某國內電視咁，開機要先睇完廣告先俾用，用用下又彈廣告出黎俾你take a break

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作者: Kin_2012    時間: 2024-3-22 00:34



用得 M$ 就預左，最簡單的解決方法就係唔用  bug10/11.

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作者: gahqm    時間: 2024-3-22 09:12

唔知有冇關係，我係用緊 win11，近排用 chrome 睇 youtube 時偶然會閃一閃然後正常，隔一排後會又閃，都唔知係咪呢樣野作怪，用 firefox 做同樣嘅野就正正常常。

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作者: lyjhf2006    時間: 2024-3-22 10:03

回覆 10# gahqm
你果個會係chrome檢測有冇屏蔽廣告咋？阻礙谷歌叫你入會員啊？

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作者: gahqm    時間: 2024-3-22 11:11

本帖最後由 gahqm 於 2024-3-22 11:13 編輯


上次 chrome+youtube 好慢事件我已經熄鬼左個 adblock...，而且我已經係 premium.....

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作者: w7pinuser    時間: 2024-4-2 18:32




    deepin、uos等國產電腦系統根本沒有此類廣告，360的極速版都沒廣告了，2345這種老流氓就算廣告滿天飛也不會惡性競爭。中國大陸企業上一次用這種手段還是在2010年的“360騰訊之戰” https://baike.baidu.com/item/%E8 ... 9/7181338?fr=ge_ala 。原本良心的微軟居然開始搞中國企業玩剩下的流氓套路，是開歷史的倒車。
本人堅決不用停止支援前的Bug1X系統。

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作者: 1597532468000    時間: 2024-4-11 22:13

本帖最後由 1597532468000 於 2024-4-11 22:23 編輯

以前KB5025221 KB5025224 KB5026039
已經試過每次開chrome都會彈default app settings出黎
引人㩒粒reset制將所有 default apps reset 做 microsoft recommened default
同埋係chrome settings入面既set chrome as default browser個option直頭會唔知冇左粒制定係㩒完都set唔到default

唔係老吹
https://support.google.com/chrom ... settings-page?hl=en
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qIQHbs4MzMA

M$干擾人地個browser已經算不正當手段 唔老實
感覺用windows用到好似會比M$監視住咁
甚至會懷疑M$根本都冇信用 出賣左幾多user data
就算裝windows果時揀晒唔share 我點知會唔會用用下或者唔知邊個update裝完自己識會中bug

所以點解開始愈黎愈多人玩linux
甚至取代埋windows變左日常使用既OS
玩唔到既game先用番windows
上網打機睇片 linux都做到啦

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作者: DMelon    時間: 2024-4-11 22:37



並不意外，仲有而家好多人用 Copilot 再送額外資料習慣喜好........

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作者: Bluth_Lai    時間: 2024-4-12 17:54

記得早期玩綠色軟件時會改Registry綁架Browser，就算清除咗都要改番regedit裏面個setting先還原到，可能Microsoft都係用類似招數。

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作者: 1597532468000    時間: 2024-4-14 17:03

本帖最後由 1597532468000 於 2024-4-14 17:04 編輯



以前既win7老實好多 起碼乾淨冇咁多bloatware 真係值得比錢買

而家既windows真係送咁濟 連key都唔洗
但送比我都唔想要 冇必要都唔想用windows
經已轉用linux幾年 最多裝隻vm比張顯卡落去隻mon插多條dvi直出windows影分身 要用果時先召喚出黎

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作者: jetdone    時間: 2024-4-18 15:50



有啲專業人士扮晒高級講只會用LINUX, 但是LINUX連打機咁基本的功能都做唔到, 他們已經忘記了電腦的首要條件係USER FRIENDLY, 若果就連70歲阿婆都識用, 這才是科技的發展方向.

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作者: 1597532468000    時間: 2024-4-18 20:07

喂 你咁樣將人扭曲人意思都得既咩? 有冇搞錯呀
首先專業人士呢頂高帽交番比呢度d大師戴都未輪到我戴
講高級都唔會只係識用部電腦黎打機同裝linux
我只係提供緊一個windows以外既方案
同埋我係擺明踩緊windows
唔係windows愈做愈差 我都唔洗轉去linux 焗住係度日日打command打打打
用linux既人亦唔代表佢地唔著重user friendly 只係另一種原因放棄user friendly
有興趣試下跳出爛窗框既自然會去試 唔好學既就自然唔去學 冇人可以逼得到 只有自己可以逼自己行

而且linux已經可以打到機好耐 亦唔難裝steam 已經有好多主流既steam game都玩到 只係好多人未知
雖然好多game仲未可以玩到 但好多新既game多數都得 而且仲一直發展緊
我夠可以話電腦既安全同私隱先係首要條件 打機係其次
linux的確比較Secure 同Privacy Friendly 雖然唔係所有linux都係咁

所以我唔會講咩咩咩先係發展方向
而且每個人對正確既發展方向既定義都唔一樣 亦唔係用單一標準去衡量

如果70歲阿婆識得用windows
好明顯係個阿婆勁抽多過windows發展方向正確
android都係基於linux 但好明顯70歲呀婆識得用android打candy crush多過識用windows裝game黎玩
android令到linux都可以有user friendly 但我唔會講android發展方向正確 因為唔夠私隱

雖然我唔識得邊個叫廿八座大王 但我只係知邊個叫大使
但我唔希望再見到佢或者出現第二個大使 因為大使真係好那煩
如果係唔講道理為拗而拗既我會先落定隻閘

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作者: nixon    時間: 2024-4-18 21:53



以前既win7老實好多  x2

而家D電腦唔係自己嘅  啲os鍾意點樣騎劫settings
你吹佢唔漲   抵wintel越做越沒落
bug10 算malware
alphabad 果D直頭係sp.yware

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作者: 1597532468000    時間: 2024-4-18 22:31

本帖最後由 1597532468000 於 2024-4-18 23:17 編輯


其實唔洗咩專業人士
連普通用家都對"新"M$不滿 開始嘗試linux 學打多幾句command唔洗死 當重新開始學電腦 要時間適應
至少部電腦係自己話事 唔會被安裝spyware 唔會被升級然後到趕交貨既時候先黎唔見左美斯

雖然安全漏洞多都唔怪得晒M$ 始中主流os係一定會成為目標
但M$錢就識得收  bugs就多到離晒譜 而家仲做埋d唔正當既行為 用家焗住先硬食
可以肯定呢個唔會係d咩 又科技 又發展方向
而係Wintel漸趨沒落衰亡
以前既Win7去左邊 我真係好掛住佢
班muggles除左錢之外仲識條鐵咩

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作者: jetdone    時間: 2024-4-18 22:53


其實本人用了WINDOWS 11咁耐, 都只試過一兩次BUG, 大多數用絕招reboot來解決, 而解決唔到就用佢個AI來回答,暫時遇到的問題都解決到. 當你明白點解AI可以解答到你的問題, 就會明白點解要用正版了.

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作者: 1597532468000    時間: 2024-4-18 23:22

survivorship bias 唔明就收線

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作者: daemongmong    時間: 2024-4-18 23:23

本帖最後由 daemongmong 於 2024-4-18 23:29 編輯


情況並不是那麼樂觀，相信更多人只會繼續使用Windows，或轉用macOS，要桌面Linux「入屋」仍然需要做更多工夫。

Windows多bug都是因為微軟取消了QA部門之過（當然有QA亦會有bug），Linux也有很多bug，但起碼很快得到修復，而且各Linux distro都不會打壓其他Linux distro，還加以配合。

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作者: 1597532468000    時間: 2024-4-18 23:29

本帖最後由 1597532468000 於 2024-4-18 23:45 編輯



我都用左好耐時間去適應linux 邊度記得晒咁多command
常用既都係抄晒落text file度copy & paste
linux我都會中bugs 同埋好多問題發生 但係大多數都可以處理到
唔似bug10咁 有d bugs要等幾個月甚至更耐先有解藥 仲要bug完一次 唔知幾時可以無啦啦再bug

雖然已習慣日常用linux 但點都係用win7最舒服

好多人嘗試走難去linux 但更多人仍然被困係Windows 因為冇得選擇囉
好難唔悲觀

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作者: daemongmong    時間: 2024-4-19 10:05


大概是以為部份設定很少用，再加上以為「控制台」將所有設定放在一起會比較複雜，所以要拆。

via HKEPC IR 5.1.14 - iOS(5.1.1F)

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作者: Okt04175    時間: 2024-4-19 13:52

本帖最後由 Okt04175 於 2024-4-19 16:48 編輯

嗰啲2024年仲連Steam OS、Steam Deck、Proton同Wine都唔知嘅人好意思話(Linux打唔到機)，咁佢哋唔係脫節就係詐傻扮懵。
Wine/Proton對舊Game相容好過Bug10/11係基本，對新Game相容唔差係因為Steam母公司Valve有出錢出力推動Proton發展。Proton衍生自Wine，但係定期會將打機最佳化Code推返上Wine互惠互利。
啲PC Linux系統唔似Bugdows咁背景Run一堆無謂大食嘅野浪費硬體運算資源，長遠發展落去當然會比Bugdows更適合打機用。

我要打機寧願用個無廣告又完全受控又唔會Run一堆搶資源無謂野嘅系統。

那怕最臃腫嘅Linux系統Ubuntu新舊版整體上都細食過Bug11。
同型號OEM電腦做比較嘅結果：
https://www.phoronix.com/review/framework-16-windows-linux

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作者: 1597532468000    時間: 2024-4-19 15:20

本帖最後由 1597532468000 於 2024-4-19 18:46 編輯

如果linux打唔到機就唔會有Steam OS 唔會賣緊Steam Deck
脫節同無知都唔係咩大罪
但唔可以只係用自己一個人既樣本 去否定/無視晒其他人既使用者體驗
而且M$用干擾人地個browser呢種流氓手段去取得利益 已經可以叫得佢做malware 呢點係都spin唔走
仲要一開聲就扭曲人意思
比人鬧/比人當大使唔好問點解

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作者: 1597532468000    時間: 2024-4-19 19:20

本帖最後由 1597532468000 於 2024-4-19 19:27 編輯



Windows附帶過多既 bloatware拖慢晒個系統 已經比人鬧左好多年
而家仲要玩埋干擾手段  為左自身行益 出術搞人地個browser 連誠信都冇埋
加上wintel聯盟打壓對手眾所周知
呢d行為已經可以定義成流氓

所以先會有人提倡索性轉用linux系統 擺脫windows控制

好處
少bloatware 部電腦係自己既
開機快熄機快
運作非常暢順
對hardware既要求低好多
bug fix速度快
安全性非常高
穩定性極高
私隱度 自由度高
用途更廣泛
wine同proton對software同game support愈黎愈好 已成為趨勢
建議學埋qemu gpu passthrough裝埋windows guest變成一機多用

壞處
都唔少bugs 最好裝stable release
顯卡driver問題多
需要有進階電腦知識
要有一定程度英文能力
識google
要習慣打command
學習門檻比windows/mac os高
要時間重新適應 學習
唔係所有windows用開既software/game都行到
介面可能要自己裝自己砌 要時間適應
懶人/冇耐性/唔好學/依賴windows做野既人唔岩用

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作者: s20012797    時間: 2024-4-19 19:55

Windows and Linux code mixing

There are many Linux-related software and features in Windows, indicating that Windows has mixed Windows NT and Linux code. These mixed elements include:

1. Kernel layer:

The Windows kernel contains a Linux-based architecture called "Kernel-Mode Driver Architecture" (KMDF), which is similar to the Linux kernel and is used to load and manage peripheral hardware drivers.

Windows Security Model Linux-based security model.

2. Core functions:

Some Windows core functions are similar to Linux, such as:
File system operations
memory management
process management

3. Open source software:

Windows includes some software developed with Linux open source code, such as:
Networking library
USB driver
Direct3D (graphics processing)
Direct2D (graphics processing)
XAudio2 (audio processing)

4. Social impact:

The design and development of Windows has been influenced by the Linux community. For example, Windows' command-line interface and networking capabilities are affected by Linux.

in conclusion:

Modern versions of Windows have mixed Windows NT and Linux code and include Linux-related software and features. This shows that there is a close relationship between Windows and Linux.

也許係有人一廂情願以為自己用緊的windows就吾係Linux

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作者: jetdone    時間: 2024-4-19 21:41


你的回應已超出討論泛圍, 大家講講吓又變了陣型之爭, 本人只是想表逹懂WINDOWS的人遠遠超過幾多百倍, 就好以TVB老牌電視台一樣, 不是TVB的節目不好看, 而是因為越多人看就越多問題出現, 而這些就是因為太多人用才會有更多不好的用戶體驗. 而HATER就一向只會攻擊優勢者, 可能以用作滿足"劫富濟貧"的心態, 坦白講, 如果LINUX免費都取代唔到Windows, 又係乜原因? 本人夠用過WINE的PC模擬器, 你就試下行唔行到3A大作? 可能連標題都看不到. 如果講STEAM, 你試吓只搜尋LINUX版本和WINDOWS版本的數目比較一下啦, 本人只是想講甚麼叫"對人唔對事", 從來都是沒有進步的原因.

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作者: s20012797    時間: 2024-4-20 00:04



It makes sense that far more people know about Windows than Linux. Windows has been around much longer than Linux and is the most popular operating system in the world. This means more people have used Windows and are familiar with its features and capabilities.

However, the saying "TVB's programs are good, but the more people watch them, the more problems there are" is not entirely correct. As a popular TV station with a large audience, TVB's programs will inevitably receive some criticism. However, this does not mean that programming is inherently bad. In fact, TVB has produced many critically acclaimed programs over the years.

It’s also not entirely true that haters only attack rulers. There are many examples of people criticizing popular products and services even when there are no viable alternatives. For example, there is a lot of criticism of Apple products, even though there are many other popular smartphone and computer manufacturers.

It's not entirely accurate to say that Linux can't replace Windows for free. There are many free and open source operating systems available for desktop computers, laptops, and smartphones. However, Windows remains the most popular operating system and will likely remain so for the foreseeable future.

It's also not entirely accurate to say that the WINE PC emulator can't run triple-A PC games. There are many WINE PC emulators that can run a variety of Windows games, including some AAA titles. However, some games do not work properly or at all in WINE.

It is accurate to say that there are far more Steam games available on Windows than on Linux. Steam is a popular digital distribution platform for video games, and it has a much larger library of Windows games than Linux games. This is because Windows is the most popular gaming platform and developers are more likely to release games for Windows.

There is truth to the saying "Judging by people rather than things is never a reason for progress." The important thing is to judge things on their merits, not on the people who use them.

To sum up, it is reasonable to think that far more people know Windows than Linux. However, other claims made in the statement are not entirely accurate. The important thing is to judge things on their merits, not on the people who use them.

Advantages of Linux

Despite these issues, Windows remains a popular choice for many users. However, Linux also has some advantages, including:

Open Source: Linux is an open source software, which means it is free and available for anyone to modify and distribute. This has resulted in a strong community of developers who are constantly improving the software.
Security: Linux is generally considered more secure than Windows. This is because its open source nature allows anyone to review the code to find vulnerabilities. Additionally, Linux typically has fewer features enabled by default, which helps reduce the attack surface.
Stability: Linux is generally considered more stable than Windows. This is because its core code is well designed and tested, and typically has fewer drivers and other software dependencies.

Limitations of WINE

You mentioned WINE, a compatibility layer that allows you to run Windows applications on Linux. WINE has come a long way in running some applications, but it's not perfect. Some applications may not work properly or may perform poorly.

Games on Steam

You also mentioned Steam, which is a popular digital game distribution platform. On Steam, you can find thousands of Windows-only games, as well as hundreds more available for Linux and Windows.

in conclusion

Both Windows and Linux are powerful operating systems with their own pros and cons. Which one you choose depends on your personal needs and preferences. If you're looking for an operating system that's easy to use and has broad software compatibility, Windows is a good choice. If you're looking for an operating system that's more secure, stable, and free to customize, Linux is a great choice.

As for your last question, it's true that there are some AAA PC games that won't run on PC emulators using WINE. However, things are improving rapidly, and more and more games can be played through WINE or other compatibility layers.

Here are some examples of AAA PC games that run well under WINE:

The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt
Rise of the Tomb Raider
demon soul
dark soul
god of war 4

從風沙初起想到是季節變更
夢中醒卻歲月如飛奔
是否早訂下來你或我也會變心
慨嘆怎麼會久合終要分

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作者: Okt04175    時間: 2024-4-20 00:26

本帖最後由 Okt04175 於 2024-6-1 01:59 編輯

明顯你用緊咸豐年代Linux使用體驗去評論而家嘅Linux社群/發展環境，你睇清楚呢個係2021年用Linux玩3A遊戲 最終幻想15 (日本Game廠喺畫質方面嘅代表作之一) 嘅片，你係時候要重新見識過Linux打機係點樣嘅體驗：
[youtube]PBm94AzGX0o[/youtube]

你亦係時候要去睇下Steam Deck認證嘅介紹頁面，連Cyberpunk 2077都係可以喺Linux上面照玩到：
https://www.steamdeck.com/zh-tw/verified

戰神 係Sony出名嘅3A遊戲之一，同樣可以喺Linux度照玩到，2023年嘅片：
[youtube]jcbB8WBWT50[/youtube]

仲有最近新出PC版3A遊戲 地平線 西域禁地 (2024年3月21號出PC版) 亦同樣可以喺Linux度照玩，2024年嘅片：
[youtube]7o5pVSXjSuw[/youtube]

喺你比較Linux同Windows之前，
你最好先了解下2024年Linux透過Wine/Proton順利Run到幾多Windows野。

唔該你搞清楚Wine係乜野嚟先啦，

將人哋 Wine Is Not an Emulator /Proton當係 VMware Player呢啲VM程式真係貽笑大方。

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作者: 1597532468000    時間: 2024-4-20 00:28

本帖最後由 1597532468000 於 2024-4-20 01:51 編輯

又黎玩遊花園 唉

從來都係講緊M$做埋d不正當手段比人發現左 呢點冇得spin走
唔係咩愈多人用愈多問題出現就可以混淆到

倖存者偏差係一種邏輯謬誤
對windows滿意既人係反映唔到windows既問題出係邊
因為佢地都觀察唔到問題出係邊 所以完全忽略左踩windows既人所提出既問題所在
所以會得出錯誤既結論

M$老唔老實 同有幾多人用windows 根本都冇關係
多人用亦又唔代表佢老實
以前既輝煌成績的確帶黎慣性收視 但唔能夠反映出今日走向沒落衰亡只剩低外殼

因為質同量根本係兩樣野黎
有質唔化表有量 有量亦唔代表有質
而家講緊質 走去用量黎代表質根本都狗唔搭八

原來OT就係陣型之爭
呢個世界唔係windows就係其他OS咖啦
唔想比windows出賣 就一定係試linux同mac os咖啦
試其他OS唔代表其他OS冇佢既問題
點解一叫人去試其他OS就會被標籤成某個OS既陣型呢
好似踩Windows就一定會被人插左支旗變成某某陣型

而且成個PO只係正常分享同交流 就算講linux都有讚亦有彈
都冇所謂陣型 冇所為專唔專業 冇所謂高唔高級 冇所謂hater 冇所謂既劫富濟貧 全部都只係無中生有出黎再套落人身上
我都可以得罪講句 居心叵測

搞呢d既冇建設性又混淆視聽亦唔乎合邏輯既留言 似搞破壞多過正常討論
原來又黎一個大使 一有人踩windows就會反應過敏
可悲

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作者: s20012797    時間: 2024-4-20 00:43



除左揄換概念仲有其它招咩,已Ching咁睇得起佢呀

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作者: 1597532468000    時間: 2024-4-20 01:29

本帖最後由 1597532468000 於 2024-4-20 03:25 編輯



都係佢睇得起我先 咪咁睇得起佢囉 唔知係咪我諗多左 係我悲觀囉
我今日先知原來專業人士既門檻係咁低
因為進階少少就已經叫高級了
我想申請降級 有冇得將我變番一星會員啊
我估門檻仲高過啲專業人士
可能要大使咁既級數先做到 明啦可
仲抄埋人地既標點方式添 模仿到標點 但模仿唔到內容同用詞
可能我眼利得濟 容易撞到野
又可能連大使呢款model都產能過剩

一味靠吹 連Wine Is Not an Emulator 都唔知就係度得罪晒啲人真係得淡笑
有冇被得罪到我唔知啦 搏比人鬧就肯定係
佢連自己都唔知自己噏緊乜 用黎用去得果招
我好似聽到咩話 我要打十個?
咁好睇 我驚佢落唔到台咋

iPhone打字傻傻地 係咁edit

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作者: daemongmong    時間: 2024-4-22 10:52


如果Windows跟「大台」比較，Windows仍然有優勢和最多用戶使用，儘管不如以往，亦不見得其他OS對Windows造成很大動搖。「大台」近年有「東張」和「新聞女郎」那麼多迴響的節目，「V台」近年聲勢明顯下滑。

儘管Windows被指有隱私和穩定問題，Linux的市佔率都仍然低。同樣地，「大台」有問題，「V台」和「H台」收視也不高，而且近年「大台」收視有少許增長。

via HKEPC IR 5.1.14 - iOS(5.1.1F)

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作者: 1597532468000    時間: 2024-4-23 20:30

本帖最後由 1597532468000 於 2024-4-23 20:33 編輯

所以先會話佢係大使n號 因為已經被搞亂左
明明講緊質 無啦啦用量去講質
量都唔可以代表質 兩樣野黎
佢成功將焦點轉移左去講幾多人仲用緊windows
但咁樣反映唔到windows已經變成流氓 愈黎愈多不正當手段 干擾左用家正常使用
只係無知用家 被"誘騙以 Bing 作為 Chrome 預設搜尋引擎"
雖然chrome都未必係好人
但更加有理由懷疑M$為左商業利益出賣左幾多user data
只係因為Windows最好support 大家焗用
多人用代表唔到佢好 量代表唔到質
以前既windows 7就真係有質素又有銷量 值得讚

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作者: jetdone    時間: 2024-4-23 23:16


你都幾可憐, 當"供應商"是在傷害你, 如果閣下真的有一天不再用微軟的產品, 就能兌現你的論點. 如果話對方傷害你而又用微軟, 咁樣就真的自己制裁自己了.

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作者: 1597532468000    時間: 2024-4-26 18:29

本帖最後由 1597532468000 於 2024-4-26 18:44 編輯

咪講左囉
win7係最後一個正常既windows
而且win7都一樣裝到落新電腦
linux+win7基本夠做
bug10同11冇必要已經唔洗點用
就算win7都極少開黎用


我由頭到尾都冇講過我唔洗用windows win7咩黎?
只係講緊linux已經可以做主力 已經應付到日常大多數工作 就好似d人用mac機做野一樣
windows有需要時先開個分身出黎用咁咋嘛

講緊同一部機 一隻mon行linux(host)另一隻mon行windows(guest) 用途等同兩部實體機 即係影分身術囉
主體用緊linux做緊自己野 同時分身埋個windows出黎借比人remote出電視機玩yuzu
用晒兩張顯卡分開做唔同既野 又何來會被制裁呢?

仲係度嗡乜Q供應商又傷害又對現又乜乜&& 好似d大使發言人 夾硬搬d詞彙出黎但又用唔到落去件事上面 成句都唔知嗡緊乜
係你條友無知得黎又要搞事不斷扭曲人地既意思咋嘛

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作者: 1597532468000    時間: 2024-4-29 02:28

本帖最後由 1597532468000 於 2024-4-29 02:34 編輯

人po我又po先

AAA 大作交番比proton啦
就算唔用wine/proton 仲要non-steam game
淨kvm都大把野玩啦

邊個話linux打唔到機 肯學就要乜有乜
xbox手掣玩不知幾爽 只係我手車麻麻地
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