作者: gunsix 時間: 2020-2-27 23:05 標題: 可以點加 RAM (DDR3)?
部機砌落唔知幾多年, 只有一條 4G, 如圖
如果想加, 係咪只可以加一條 4G DDR3-1600 (dual channel?) 加一條 8G 或一條 16G DDR3-1600 可以嗎?
Thx for advice!
https://www.hkepc.com/forum/attachment.php?aid=2178228&k=49852948a2e7149b1c0c7e41e1e0d5be&t=1781389132&sid=iHy1Dh8NSS

作者: happychanbb 時間: 2020-2-27 23:14
回覆 1# gunsix
係, 但dual channel 因為你其中一條比較細,
所以只會部分行到dual channel
e.g 4+4 = 8GB dual channel
4+8 = 8GB dual channel + 4GB single channel
4+16 = 8GB dual channel + 8GB single channel
如果你買16GB 新, 可能唔太化算
兩條8GB 反而做到16GB dual channel
作者: gunsix 時間: 2020-2-27 23:31
回覆 gunsix
係, 但dual channel 因為你其中一條比較細,
所以只會部分行到dual channel
e.g 4+4 ...
happychanbb 發表於 2020-2-27 11:14 PM
Thanks. 如果唔打機, dual channel 同 single channel 分別大嗎?
作者: PT100 時間: 2020-2-28 00:11
回覆 3# gunsix
Ram running in Single or dual channel affected performance most on the IGD (CPU internal display)!
So if you have display card, it's not that obviously.
Anyway, 4GB ram on nowaday are far below the standard! Even PC only for Document & Web surfing needs at least 8GB to run it smoothly...
作者: gunsix 時間: 2020-2-28 00:34
回覆 gunsix
Ram running in Single or dual channel affected performance most on the IGD (CPU inter ...
PT100 發表於 2020-2-28 12:11 AM
Oops, 用緊 onboard display...
部機屬於太太的, 不過佢好小用, 阿仔攞嚟玩 Minecraft, 我估對 graphics 同 CPU 要求不高吧, 但最近佢學人 MOD, 投訴 load 兩個 MOD 都慢到死, 所以諗緊係咪要加 RAM, 不過加完又要重裝 Windows (依家行 32bit), 好煩
作者: 888iphone4s 時間: 2020-2-28 00:41
Oops, 用緊 onboard display...
部機屬於太太的, 不過佢好小用, 阿仔攞嚟玩 Minecraft, 我估對 graphics ...
gunsix 發表於 2020-2-28 00:34
4gb ram of course lag la....
+ 8gb ddr3 = 12gb, much better
maybe need to add a display card too, e.g. 1650
作者: PT100 時間: 2020-2-28 00:53
回覆 5# gunsix
Minecraft is already MOD la
If 2 or 3 MOD running at same time, which CPU you are using? At least i5 + 8GB ram !
For 32 bit OS (W7?), use the key to install 64bit W10 la, just 30mins job!
作者: gunsix 時間: 2020-2-28 11:54
回覆 gunsix
Minecraft is already MOD la
If 2 or 3 MOD running at same time, which CPU you ...
PT100 發表於 2020-2-28 12:53 AM
i5-3330
Minecraft 啲 MOD 食 CPU 定 memory?
作者: gunsix 時間: 2020-2-28 11:58
4gb ram of course lag la....
+ 8gb ddr3 = 12gb, much better
maybe need to add a display card too ...
888iphone4s 發表於 2020-2-28 12:41 AM
Thx
加 display 卡多一把風扇, 又會嘈啲...
Minecraft 啲晝面幾粗下, display 卡真的有需要嗎?
作者: gunsix 時間: 2020-2-28 12:01
暫時方案係:
1) 咩都唔做, 叫阿仔唔忍得就咪打機! (Preference
)2) 只加一條 8G, 重裝 Windows
3) 加兩條 8G, 賣走依家條 4G, 重裝 Windows
作者: hkmand001 時間: 2020-2-28 12:11
本帖最後由 hkmand001 於 2020-2-28 12:12 編輯
答案係唔加唔減
底板好多年。ram槽最易死
你加只會掉入更深的沙坑裡面
倒不如將資源投放其他好過
例如買部新。
作者: rx78_nt-1 時間: 2020-2-28 13:22
買條二手 4G 頂下囉
現在買DDR 3 好唔抵
我之前買過adata香港代理執笠貨
4g $50
作者: ricky1992 時間: 2020-2-28 13:41
淘寶買新16gb 1866都係160hkd咁上下
作者: W.H.Y. 時間: 2020-2-28 14:18
我部十年機i5-2400都只係加咗條淘佬二手adata 8Gb ram, 舊機唔使咁重本, 人仔150搞掂, 不過4G+8G其中只會4G+4G行dual channel 剩下4G行single
作者: gunsix 時間: 2020-2-28 14:19
本來諗住就算加都係買二手, 原來淘寶都係 option, 多謝捉醒
我見有啲寫 DDR3L, 係咪低電壓, 我唔適用?
淘寶話有啲 AMD 專用, RAM 有跟 CPU 牌子嗎? 太耐冇留意了
作者: gunsix 時間: 2020-2-28 14:22
我部十年機i5-2400都只係加咗條淘佬二手adata 8Gb ram, 舊機唔使咁重本, 人仔150搞掂, 不過4G+8G其中只會4G ...
W.H.Y. 發表於 2020-2-28 02:18 PM
Thx
上面有 CHING 提過 dual 同 single channel 嚮 onboard display 上有分別, 其實"感受得到"嗎?
作者: ricky1992 時間: 2020-2-28 14:28
amd專用ram係8 bit server ram尼
intel家用U唔support
你係DDR3就買番DDR3
DDR3L應該係boot唔起
作者: Botti 時間: 2020-2-28 14:32
Oops, 用緊 onboard display...
部機屬於太太的, 不過佢好小用, 阿仔攞嚟玩 Minecraft, 我估對 graphics ...
gunsix 發表於 2020-2-28 00:34
32 bit WIN
食盡 3.xG RAM, 加到 8G 無作用

B75/10 年前 U + 內顯,留返 budget 轉新野吧
作者: gunsix 時間: 2020-2-28 14:37
所以加 RAM 要重裝 Windows 了
作者: gunsix 時間: 2020-2-28 14:41
其實部機我自己冇投訴, 一來我自己有 notebook, 二來我用佢 remote 返公司 only (desktop 有 24 吋 mon), 只係阿仔玩 Minecraft MOD load 好耐啫
作者: W.H.Y. 時間: 2020-2-28 14:43
Thx
上面有 CHING 提過 dual 同 single channel 嚮 onboard display 上有分別, 其實"感受得到"嗎? ...
gunsix 發表於 2020-2-28 14:22
我未加前用4G ram行bluestacks lag 到high high, 加多8G會好D但一樣lag, 最明顯提升就係接收咗朋友唔要嘅GTX960, 而你粒i5-3330同我粒i5-2400差唔幾, 你個case只加8g ram, 小朋友一樣會投訴
作者: PT100 時間: 2020-2-28 20:37
回覆 10# gunsix
咩都唔做, 叫阿仔唔忍得就咪打機! (Preference
) < < <I know that you might got this mind
Since lot of parent worrying their kids addict in gaming
Anyway, make small change (+8GB ram) to show your friendly to your son in necessary indeed...

作者: PT100 時間: 2020-2-28 20:49
For the ram, i5-3330 supports DDR3-1600, so buy a normal DDR3-12800 would fits your need!
Don't take the risk to buy the DDR3L (low voltage), your motherboard might not supports it.
Just for 1 piece of ram to get it from Taobao (including mail charge) is not recommended. Get it from 2nd hand forum or 新高登, price around 4GB/$80 or 8GB/$200
作者: gunsix 時間: 2020-2-28 22:20
For the ram, i5-3330 supports DDR3-1600, so buy a normal DDR3-12800 would fits your need!
Don't tak ...
PT100 發表於 2020-2-28 08:49 PM
Oh? 點解淘寶 RAM 唔建議呢? 怕假貨?
作者: PT100 時間: 2020-2-29 02:42
回覆 24# gunsix
Suppose you need to pay the mailing charge, it won't be cheaper than you buy it at HK!
Also, lot of old model goods mentioned new actually are 2nd hand stuff scrapped from USA.
作者: chaser 時間: 2020-3-1 09:59
加兩條 8G, 賣走依家條 4G, 重裝 Windows
一係起呢度二手區,睇下有冇人放
都係3-400一對8G
一係TB,百零蚊一條8G,買一對
加完睇下對打機有冇幫助
唔得再買display 卡
作者: soccerism 時間: 2020-3-1 10:15
以Win 7計, 4G -> 8G 係好明顯睇有分別, 單計系統佔RAM用量, Win 7用得比Win 10差, Win 10 用4G都幾順, 可能冇咁多AERO 無謂graphics
等呢到二手 DDR3係唔錯, 唔想等直接去淘X到買拆機翻新RAM, 揀DDR3L吧, 多數兼容DDR3, 問下店主囉, 好少老點你的.
作者: water1213 時間: 2020-3-1 10:37
加一條8GB
via HKEPC Reader for Android
作者: PT100 時間: 2020-3-1 12:27
回覆 26# chaser
唔得再買display 卡 < < <
The preference of him is not encourage his boy addict on gaming
Otherwise I would push him to build a new PC la

作者: gunsix 時間: 2020-3-1 14:05
Thx 依幾日四維睇過,其實放一對 8G 唔多,有都貴
嚮木馬見到一條平 8G,點知問多兩問 delete 埋 item!
暫時得返淘寶,最平 169 人仔叫精億,search 過依度搵唔到舊 post,唔知可靠否 (咁啱今朝新聞話大陸滑板車短路燒死個小朋友...
)作者: gunsix 時間: 2020-3-1 14:19
回覆 chaser
唔得再買display 卡 < < <
The preference of him is not encourage his boy addict on ga ...
PT100 發表於 2020-3-1 12:27 PM
主觀覺得 bottleneck 唔係 display 卡,不過都有留意下,新高登見到 $300 樓下都有好多選擇,不過冇跟 display 卡 N 年,唔識分邊張性價比高了
作者: PT100 時間: 2020-3-1 18:34
回覆 30# gunsix
Go to New Capital Plaza新高登電腦廣場, lot of choice both on brand and capacity!
8GB/stick not exceeds $200, Samsung/Hynix/Crucial are also good brand for you.
作者: PT100 時間: 2020-3-1 18:42
回覆 31# gunsix
You could considerate but not recommended -
2nd hand display card, below $300 best buy GTX750Ti, for GTX1050 should be around $500!
作者: gunsix 時間: 2020-3-1 18:43
回覆 gunsix
Go to New Capital Plaza新高登電腦廣場, lot of choice both on brand and capacity!
8GB ...
PT100 發表於 2020-3-1 06:34 PM
今朝去過, 但太早到, 9 成未開, 見到一間 DDR3L 8G, $220... 唔知 1333 定 1600, 不過頭先 google 過, 1333 同 1600 好似用落分別不大
作者: PT100 時間: 2020-3-1 18:52
回覆 34# gunsix
First check your current 4GB is 1333 or 1600Mhz!
If the one you get on hand is 1333, no matter you buy 1333 or 1600, it will run on speed 1333.
If the one that you get is 1600, you should insist 1600, so you would gain the benefits both on frequency and dual channel bandwidth, it helps a lot on your IGD...
作者: s123es12 時間: 2020-3-1 19:10
RAM好少壞, 去收條二手8gb 1600, 200蚊左右應該有
作者: ricky1992 時間: 2020-3-2 13:09
本帖最後由 ricky1992 於 2020-3-2 13:12 編輯
D ram又加價了
作者: PT100 時間: 2020-3-2 14:22
回覆 37# ricky1992
It's still $160-180 at January, , so $200 is already the update price!
作者: blackkh 時間: 2020-3-2 14:27
普通文書機,加多一條4gb就可以,上去新高登找一找2手,我上次買過一條4gb 1600 $80
via HKEPC Reader for Android
作者: ricky1992 時間: 2020-3-2 14:33
回覆 ricky1992
It's still $160-180 at January, , so $200 is already the update price!
PT100 發表於 2020-3-2 14:22
我新年前145人仔乍
已經唔係最平
不過肺炎乜都貴哂
我新年前買紫外光燈管10X 而家18X
作者: PT100 時間: 2020-3-2 14:38
回覆 40# ricky1992
UV lamp
All price of stuff related to killing virus & bacteria are raise up rapidly!
作者: g1jockey 時間: 2020-3-2 15:30
一陣搞下搞下,加返個windows update,跟手裝埋NVME M.2 SSD都仲得,裝OS同Game一劑過。
作者: gunsix 時間: 2020-3-2 17:07
如果 4GB 就好多選擇, 亦唔算貴, 不過好多一對咁賣
作者: gunsix 時間: 2020-3-2 17:08
Desktop HD 已經係 SSD 了, 雖然唔係 M.2
作者: g1jockey 時間: 2020-3-2 17:27 標題: 上埋就m2更完美
(由 HKEPC Android 手機版 發出)
作者: gunsix 時間: 2020-3-2 19:28
我相信我感覺唔到分別...

作者: gunsix 時間: 2020-3-2 21:47
Sorry 又有 naive 問題, 點解 CPU base speed 係 3.0GHz 但只行 1.77GHz? 因為 memory 唔係 dual channel?
相反, 公司部機 base speed 3.2 GHZ 但行到 3.5GHz, 咁奇嘅?
https://www.hkepc.com/forum/attachment.php?aid=2179069&k=1d419a7c06415ac0b45f272ac421a7b2&t=1781389132&sid=iHy1Dh8NSS

https://www.hkepc.com/forum/attachment.php?aid=2179071&k=67b207a592a3117e5898706eb98460d5&t=1781389132&sid=iHy1Dh8NSS

作者: Dcup 時間: 2020-3-2 21:51
CPU行幾多同你點set電源管理同turbo Boost有關
而且Intel boost受制好多問題,未必boost俾你睇
作者: gunsix 時間: 2020-3-6 23:47
剛才叫阿仔示範 Minecraft 加 MOD 點慢法, 開住 task manager 睇
CPU 谷到 3.0GHz, 用 40% 左右. Memory 用到 91%, 畫面一格一格咁行, 開背包等兩秒...
以咁情況, 加多 4G RAM 夠嗎? 使唔使加 display 卡 (只考慮二三百的二手卡)?
如果要換 CPU, 就算數喇...
Thx for advice


