作者: hkk1128 時間: 2020-9-21 09:01 標題: 求10K鬆D機List，for python programm and stock analysis and AI
求10K鬆D機List，for python programm and stock analysis and AI
Use Intel many years, this time want to try AMD.
作者: sport 時間: 2020-9-21 17:40
今日旺電價
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AMD Ryzen 7 3700X $2370
AMD Ryzen 9 3900X $3650
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MSI MAG B550M Mortar DDR-4 AM4 M.ATX M/B $1085
MSI MAG B550 Tomahawk DDR-4 AM4 ATX M/B $1250
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Corsair Vengeance LPX DDR4-3200MHz CL16 2x16GB 32GB Kit $1190
Kingston HyperX Fury DDR4-3200MHz CL16 2x16GB 32GB Kit $1220
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ASUS TUF3 GTX1660S O6G-Gaming Super 6GB GDDR6 $2070
Inno3D RTX2060 Twin X2 6GB GDDR6 $2580
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Kingston A2000 1TB Gen3 M.2 2280 NVMe 1.3 SSD $840
WD Black SN750 1TB Gen3 M.2 2280 NVMe 1.3 SSD $1199
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Antec HCG-650 High Current Gamer 650W 80Plus Gold Full Modular $705
ASUS ROG-STRIX-650G 650W 80Plus Gold Full Modular $730
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Thermaltake S100 TG-Window Black M.ATX Case $390
SilverStone SST-FAR1B-G FARA R1 TG-Window ATX Case $299
Be quiet BK004 Shadow Rock 3 CPU Fan $379
3700X =$9029 - $10027
3900X =$10309 - $11307
作者: raylee 時間: 2020-9-21 18:02
just for discussion,
Would Intel 10700 better than Ryzen 3700x ?
作者: sport 時間: 2020-9-21 18:18
10700 vs 3700X 性能大家差不多
但10代LGA-1200只是短暫， Ryzen還可用Zen3 4代4700X
作者: CoffeeCup 時間: 2020-9-21 21:35
It depends what software you are using. AI & stock analysis are too broad, huge difference from amateur to professional traders. :)
作者: sport 時間: 2020-9-21 21:50
10K鬆D budget 可以點呢？
作者: hkk1128 時間: 2020-9-22 12:30
回覆 4# sport
yes, i am not professional guy, and in the learning stage. any suggestion?
作者: oneofthem 時間: 2020-9-22 14:14
回覆 sport
yes, i am not professional guy, and in the learning stage. any suggestion?
hkk1128 發表於 2020-9-22 12:30
I highly recommend using Intel for machine learning. The iGPU can help you to free up VRAM for machine learning. I.e., you should connect your display to the iGPU, and use GPU only for Machine Learning.
Ryzen 4000 APU is also ok, but only 8x PCIE lanes which is a problem.
For GPU, you would like to have a RTX card such that you can use Nvidia APEX to speed up over 2X when you go from FP32 to FP16. GTX cards don't have this functionality.
作者: oneofthem 時間: 2020-9-22 14:21
10700 vs 3700X 性能大家差不多
但10代LGA-1200只是短暫， Ryzen還可用Zen3 4代4700X
sport 發表於 2020-9-21 18:18
10700有iGPU，呢個好重要，可以確保Desktop Environment唔會食GPU VRAM。
Ryzen 4000 APU得PCIE 3 x8
10代LGA-1200應該可以升上11代，Ryzen宜家都係升多一代上Zen3，呢度打和
如果樓主budget多啲一定玩
Ryzen 4000+1650for display+3070/3080
作者: sport 時間: 2020-9-22 15:17
回覆 sport
yes, i am not professional guy, and in the learning stage. any suggestion?
hkk1128 發表於 2020-9-22 12:30
都係睇餸食飯！
作者: sport 時間: 2020-9-22 15:31
10700有iGPU，呢個好重要，可以確保Desktop Environment唔會食GPU VRAM。
Ryzen 4000 APU得PCIE 3 x8:hi ...
oneofthem 發表於 2020-9-22 14:21
照你咁講...即係AMD 冇内顯唔好，Intel有内顯最好？
10代LGA-1200「應該」可以升上11代？
「如果」樓主budget多啲一定玩
「如果」只得10K budget 呢？
作者: oneofthem 時間: 2020-9-22 15:53
本帖最後由 oneofthem 於 2020-9-22 15:56 編輯
照你咁講...即係AMD 冇内顯唔好，Intel有内顯最好？
10代LGA-1200「應該」可以升上11代？
「如果」樓主bud ...
sport 發表於 2020-9-22 15:31
10K budget:
10700 + 2060啦
如果AMD就加多張1650
利申：用緊3700X+RX550 for desktop/workstation
7700K+Titan V for server
作者: sport 時間: 2020-9-22 16:17
10K budget:
10700 + 2060啦
如果AMD就加多張1650
利申：用緊3700X+RX550 for desktop/workstation
77 ...
oneofthem 發表於 2020-9-22 15:53
本來出Intel / AMD 2條list 比樓主揀，但話想試吓AMD
而家咪AMD+2060，你又話唔好！
作者: oneofthem 時間: 2020-9-22 16:57
本來出Intel / AMD 2條list 比樓主揀，但話想試吓AMD
而家咪AMD+2060，你又話唔好！ ...
sport 發表於 2020-9-22 16:17
AMD+2060嘅問題係Desktop Environment會食咗幾百MB GPU VRAM，搞到有時啲Pretrained model run唔到，尤其是本來2060本來得6GB已經唔大。
另外，Desktop Environment同Compute分開GPU仲有其他好處例如AI Program炒咗張GPU冇咁影響Desktop嘅其他Program，而且唔用GPU嘅時侯慳電/涼啲
AMD其實5舊水買翻張1030都解決到，不過Intel+2060會易搞啲
作者: sport 時間: 2020-9-22 18:13
AMD+2060嘅問題係Desktop Environment會食咗幾百MB GPU VRAM，搞到有時啲Pretrained model run唔到，尤 ...
oneofthem 發表於 2020-9-22 16:57
如果AMD就加多張1650
：1650 得4GB，1030得2GB
作者: hkk1128 時間: 2020-9-22 21:44
10700有iGPU，呢個好重要，可以確保Desktop Environment唔會食GPU VRAM。
Ryzen 4000 APU得PCIE 3 x8:hi ...
oneofthem 發表於 2020-9-22 14:21
could you suggest a list to me???
if function is much better, 5k to 10k more is not a big problem
作者: hkk1128 時間: 2020-9-22 21:46
could you suggest a list to me???
if function is much better, 5k to 10k more is not a big pro ...
hkk1128 發表於 2020-9-22 21:44
i mean Intel list
作者: hkk1128 時間: 2020-9-22 22:20
回覆 8# oneofthem
any suggestion for the list of INtel
作者: sport 時間: 2020-9-22 22:47
今日旺電價
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Intel 8 Cores 16 Threads Core i7-10700 Box $2480
Intel 10 Cores 20 Threads Core i9-10900 Box $3550
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MSI MAG B460M Mortar DDR4 LGA-1200 M.ATX M/B $890
MSI MAG B460 Tomahawk DDR4 LGA-1200 ATX M/B $1110
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G.Skill Ripjaws V DDR4-3000MHz CL16 2x16GB 32GB Kit $920
Corsair Vengeance LPX DDR4-3000MHz CL15 2x16GB 32GB Kit $1130
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MSI RTX2060 Super Ventus GP 8GB GDDR6 $3250
ASUS ROG-STRIX RTX2060S-8G Evo V2 Gaming Super 8GB GDDR6 $3550
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Kingston A2000 1TB Gen3 M.2 2280 NVMe 1.3 SSD $840
WD Black SN750 1TB Gen3 M.2 2280 NVMe 1.3 SSD $1199
2選1
Antec HCG-650 High Current Gamer 650W 80Plus Gold Full Modular $705
ASUS ROG-STRIX-650G 650W 80Plus Gold Full Modular $730
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Thermaltake S100 TG-Window Black M.ATX Case $390「For M.ATX板」
SilverStone SST-FAR1B-G FARA R1 TG-Window ATX Case $299「For ATX板」
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Be quiet BK004 Shadow Rock 3 CPU Fan $379「For i7」
Be quiet BK021 Dark Rock 4 CPU Fan $549「For i9」
i7-10700 =$10154 - $10968
i9-10900 =$11133 - $12117
作者: hkk1128 時間: 2020-9-22 22:56
今日旺電價
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Intel 8 Cores 16 Threads Core i7-10700 Box $2480
Intel 10 Cores 20 Threads Core i9- ...
sport 發表於 2020-9-22 22:47
thx very much
作者: hkk1128 時間: 2020-9-22 22:58
今日旺電價
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Intel 8 Cores 16 Threads Core i7-10700 Box $2480
Intel 10 Cores 20 Threads Core i9- ...
sport 發表於 2020-9-22 22:47
如果用水泠？呢個好？
作者: sport 時間: 2020-9-22 23:15
如果用水泠？呢個好？
hkk1128 發表於 2020-9-22 22:58
Corsair ICUE H115i-RGB PRO XT Liquid CPU Cooler $1020
NZXT Kraken X63 RGB 280mm Liquid CPU Cooler $1150