IHS Markit spot some flaws in Huawei's Balong 5000 5G chip

本帖最後由 skywalker167 於 2019-8-15 22:49 編輯

華為5G modem比 qualcomm同Samsung的5G modem面積要大50%
Samsung的同qualcomm的面積幾乎一樣
點解其他人可以細好多,系得huawei錦大?
成本相信也高50%
不只成本,仲令設備比較不容易做細D
至於點樣效率低就好似無講,可能要搵IHS原文
我記得之前Qualcomm不點名笑過對手(huawei)的5G modem太大同效率低
而家有第三方印證左

以下系各5G modem比較
https://www.anandtech.com/show/1 ... ung-unisoc-mediatek

https://www.anandtech.com/show/1 ... -multimode-5g-modem

Samsung Exynos5100 5G modem系功能上同Balong5000一樣,都支援Sub 6GHz, mmWave 同legacy網絡
但面積huawei balong 5000要比exynos5100大50%

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https://www.gizchina.com/2019/08 ... along-5000-5g-chip/

The development of 5G technology is getting to advance stages and very soon, 5G smartphones will flood the market. Recently, IHS Markit took a look at six 5G smartphones that are already available in the market. Apart from Samsung and Huawei that has their own 5G modems, other OEMs rely on Qualcomm’s X50 5G modem. The report reveals some important notes on the Balong 5000 which is the 5G modem on the Huawei Mate 20X 5G version.

IHS Markit on Early 5G smartphones
IHS Markit on Balong 5000 5G Modem

According to IHS Markit, the Balong 5000 is “inefficient and too large” while the 5G experience is also questionable. Huawei Mate 20X 5G version uses both the Kirin 980 and the Balong 5000. The Balong 5000 5G modem is currently the first chip to support 5G/4G/3G/2G. However, it is worth noting that the Kirin 980 processor itself integrates a 4G/3G/2G modem chip. Thus, the exact need for Kirin 980 is not seen. Perhaps, there are some flaws with the Balong 5000 that the Kirin 980 need to cover up. Moreover, the chip size of the Balong 5000 5G modem chip is quite large. It is about 50% larger than Qualcomm’s X50 5G modem and Samsung Exynos 5100 5G modem.

Despite these loopholes, IHS Markit admits that the Balong 5000 is efficient enough for the current 5G network. However, there is definitely room for improvement. Well, it is not a complete surprise if there are a few flaws here and there in the current 5G. Recall that it was a race to the finish line thus many minute details will be ignored for now.
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Nevertheless, IHS Markit's expects serious improvements in next year smartphone processor. It believes that the chips will integrate 5G/4G/3G/2G multimode modem, which may gradually reduce the price of 5G mobile phone because the device will no longer need a separate 5G modem. This will also eliminate the need for storage and power management chips for 5G modem. As the price of 5G mobile phones decreases, the application of 5G is expected to be more extensive.

The IHS Markit report also praised Huawei's efforts for 5G commercial use. Although there is some functional duplication between the Balong 5000 5G modem chip and the integrated modem inside the Kirin 980, IHS Markit hopes that Huawei can further improve the integration of 5G chips in the future.

係咪得華為個粒用到sa 同nsa
其它唔得先咁大

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係咪得華為個粒用到sa 同nsa
其它唔得先咁大
ricky1992 發表於 2019-8-16 00:35



    吾系
三星exynos5100個規格同huawei相同
支援sub 6ghz同mmwave
而且支援legacy網路
但大小卻細好多
而qualcomm都出左第2代5g modem

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面積大 50%
o甘大隻 flaw 隨街跳     
會唔會又好似 Super Bluetooth,裏面又有 Super xxxx      

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係咪得華為個粒用到sa 同nsa
其它唔得先咁大
ricky1992 發表於 2019-8-16 00:35


應該係趕住出黎搶頭香, 冇乜時間做電路優化就趕上去出片

做唔到第一名出都至少拎個第二

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早期的 486SX 集成埋 FPU 不過就disabled 咗
5G同物聯網關係密切
巴龍 果 50%,可能集成某些 ASIC 功能,例如 IoT ...  但 disabled

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華為多人用既原因,一個字 平

你唔係以為佢勁下話,佢有阿爺後台,佢部機賣平人地一半己經贏曬啦

都係果句,你以為華為同人鬥技術贏市場咩?鬥賤價之嘛

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2019-8-16 23:10


系第度開的post有其他人留言
話事實上huawei Balong5000的極速比其他人(Qualcomm同MTK)的5G modem慢好多
而且Balong5000懷疑個mmWave支援系好有問題

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系第度開的post有其他人留言
話事實上huawei Balong5000的極速比其他人(Qualcomm同MTK)的5G modem慢好多
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skywalker167 發表於 2019-8-16 23:14


可能啦,所以 美國 先幫 華為 賣廣告   
好唔好 市場及用家會決定

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系第度開的post有其他人留言
話事實上huawei Balong5000的極速比其他人(Qualcomm同MTK)的5G modem慢好多
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skywalker167 發表於 2019-8-16 23:14


https://zhuanlan.zhihu.com/p/78776553

但尼到話x50係單頻
應該係佢大粒係support 2345G

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