dom

Get real tired of their wet dream ppt while actual products are nowhere to be seen
Kundera 發表於 7-5-2015 08:18 PM

That's why I give up waiting , my new NB is Intel Core i5 and my "Next Gen" PC Build is Intel based

Stiggy930

Get real tired of their wet dream ppt while actual products are nowhere to be seen
Kundera 發表於 2015-5-7 20:18

As they are stuck with the usual development cycle (4 to 5 years for one new arch.) and waiting for GF's 14nm, I guess talking is all they can do. They honestly don't have any choices other then waiting for Bulldozer to hand off to Zen.

Anyways, looking at Zen, seem like AMD is back to the basic which can be a good thing.

aes090

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但中高階都係易名

dom

As they are stuck with the usual development cycle (4 to 5 years for one new arch.) and waiting fo ...
Stiggy930 發表於 8-5-2015 03:09 PM

The main issue is they dragged on Faildozer too long ......
and now they have one year with virtually NO NEW product to sell @ CPU ( Carrizo ? They don't plan to sell on Desktop "Low GP market"  and OEM/ODM refused to use it on Laptop/Tablet as they are not competitive ... they have nice Jaugar / Beema for low-end and they give it up for whatever XXXX reason. ( They should have make quite competitive with the new Atom IF AMD continue develop it but instead , AMD said they QUIT and tell people to "WAIT FOR ZEN we will be back ! "

It sounds like full of crap , they are losing market share in ALL FRONT
GPU losing to nVIDIA Maxwell based  solution
CPU all they have left is the "APU" low end market , Performance PC user will go for Intel as their "FX" is 3 years old pair with 5 years old chipset old tech  

And now they said they can't make enough margin  at low-end PC and they will raise margin by leaving those "low profit" market  ( giving up the remaining market share , lol )

Console chip sales is "LOW GP" , do this mean AMD will give it up too ?
Lets hope Zen isn't Faildozer 2.0 .....if that's the case AMD is dead  *yawn*

They spent too much "future" but ignoring the "market reality"
Giving up "Market share" and betting on one "STAR" product won't save them (IF it fail its GAME OVER for AMD )

Good luck to AMD Titanic ..... RIP @ 2016

KittyLam

睇完之後感覺AMD好似ALL IN落ZEN
作為多年AMD FAN
希望呢粒會好似當年K8咁
比到大家一D希望

ironmonkey

但......面對4核Zen HBM APU...真是有點動搖.

4核 Sandybridge + 7850 + 8GB HBM - 65W tdp - $3000

arthur8523

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重點
- 唔整 x86 + ARM (Skylake cancelled)
- AMD 話減少+唔做 Low-end PC Ma ...
dom 發表於 2015-5-7 15:17

    Simultaneous Multithreading= Hyper Thread?

usei

但......面對4核Zen HBM APU...真是有點動搖.

4核 Sandybridge + 7850 + 8GB HBM - 65W tdp - $3000 ...
ironmonkey 發表於 2015-5-8 19:07

4核 Sandybridge 即是同 6 代 i3 性能差不多

ironmonkey

4核 Sandybridge 即是同 6 代 i3 性能差不多
usei 發表於 2015-5-9 12:08

貧血程度雖深, 但還是有一絲期望...

Stiggy930

The main issue is they dragged on Faildozer too long ......
and now they have one year with virtua ...
dom 發表於 2015-5-8 18:25

CPU development cycle is 4 to 5 years anyways. There is basically virtually nothing they can do. AMD is not Intel, it does not have a second team standby in Israel.

Have no desktop product is actually not the biggest concern. The biggest concern is no HPC/Data-center focused chips. Those are the real money maker (Very high margin). They could have port excavator to GF's 22nm FD-SOI and hold off Intel for-awhile in low to mid end server. Now all AMD can do is hope Zen does not suck, which is fair as they take a fair gamble (whether to waste time with GF on 22nm FD-SOI or reserve resource and go straight to 14nm with Zen)

Graphic wise, they take a gamble too with HBM. Whether HBM and GCN 1.3 will shine, we will see in June.