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Benchmark 原文係哩度：


Phoronix 將部 Samsung Chromebook 整左個 Ubuntu 13.04 for ARM 落去，同 Atom  ...
liangsuilong 發表於 2012-11-22 00:16

krait 係鬼A15

liangsuilong

krait 係鬼A15
實頭 發表於 2012-11-23 00:24

類 A15 嘛。。

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Because this is how the development pipeline works. They have already accelerated the roadmap, and  ...
Puff 發表於 2012-11-22 20:18

22nm Atom 要 2014 年先出到，咁 TSMC 果邊 20nm 都開始量產，雖然佢地一開始會超多問題。Atom 個市場前景都唔係咁樂觀。Boost Roadmap 我估起碼要到 2015 先開始有效果。2015 都開始有第二代 ARMv8 啦。

liangsuilong

next gen atom soc uses hd4000 and have a very low power consumption, it makes itself power an ...
小安哥 發表於 2012-11-22 01:05

I am not worried about performance of next gen Atom. I just worried about when Intel rolls out it and how it competes with other ARM chips. Time is as important as technology.

liangsuilong

到時如果Atom table 用到PhotoShop CS5, 甚至 LOL遊戲, 吾知你又會點睇.
係因為ARM 架構比較簡單 開 ...
cksin 發表於 2012-11-22 01:21

1. ARM 嘅效能足夠，且用家足夠多嘅話，軟件商唔會坐視哩個市場唔理。Adobe 已經出左 Photoshop Touch 畀 iOS 同 Android，EA 亦有唔少 Game Port 左落 ARM，最新一代嘅 NFS，講左好耐都係未做好嘅 Battlefield 3.。Microsoft Office 都有 ARM 版。

2. 好似哩D咁嘅 Form Factor，着重玩同輕量使用。試問是否適合放一個 Full Function 嘅 Photoshop 或其他專業級生產力工具落去呢？我唔覺得 Atom Tablet 行 Photoshop CS5 會有咩好體驗，就算唔計效能只講 UI。

3. 軟件功能可以做到幾多嘢，好睇個硬件效能去到邊度，同埋個 OS 做到咩程度。ARM 同 x86 用同一個 OS 嘅話，效能又差唔多，App 又有齊嘅話，我唔覺得 ARM replace 唔到 x86 咯。

4. 原文只不過講左話 ARM 都可以做出一粒效能追得上入門級 x86 嘅 CPU 姐，唔好講到 CPU 效能以外嘅嘢咯。

willy930

1. ARM 嘅效能足夠，且用家足夠多嘅話，軟件商唔會坐視哩個市場唔理。Adobe 已經出左 Photoshop Touch 畀 ...
liangsuilong 發表於 2012-11-23 12:23

I don't think NEON is anywhere close to the FPU on Atom/Bobcat.

Later on, when mobile apps use more floating points, ARM may have a hard time.

Of cause, there is still something call OpenCL which may be able to help the ARM camp.

Puff

22nm Atom 要 2014 年先出到，咁 TSMC 果邊 20nm 都開始量產，雖然佢地一開始會超多問題。Atom 個市場前 ...
liangsuilong 發表於 2012-11-23 12:05

下代 22nm Atom，我睇到既資訊都依然係話 13H2 推出市場。

而代工廠既 20nm 係 13H2 只係 ramping up. 只係 ramping up. 按 40nm/28nm 既往續黎睇，無返一年半載係無 mobile SoC vendor 會 launch new products，產能既供給水平同可能出現既良率問題。而 Intel 既 22nm 已經係 well-established，更加唔好講 14H2 佢地就預計會推出 14nm Atom.出唔出到另一個問題。

Ksec

下代 22nm Atom，我睇到既資訊都依然係話 13H2 推出市場。

而代工廠既 20nm 係 13H2 只係 ramping up. 只 ...
Puff 發表於 2012-11-23 17:49

TSMC 20nm production will be coming in much quicker then you think then. Not to mention they have an extra 1B R&D left over from budget for improving 28nm.

You are very likely to see TSMC 20nm SoC product on market in Q3 / Q4 2013.

Puff

TSMC 20nm production will be coming in much quicker then you think then. Not to mention they have  ...
Ksec 發表於 2012-11-23 18:22

Perhaps. Will see FPGA at first anyway.