FeverMike

回復 10# hgcjeffrey

3. 如果一個水泵是足夠, 水路應該點行法? (如次序, 是否要用T-LINE分水等......)
    水箱→水泵，其他唔講夠的話可以隨便，(冷排後出的第一個block會涼dd)
咁係冷排之後第一個出CPU BLOCK好D?? 還是將CPU BLOCK擺到最後好D??    
T-LINE分水? 個人覺得cpu分vga就有需要多d
5. 上述配置是否使用單一NOZZLE/HOSE SIZE就可以?
    唔明
因為我之前見有D POST講D水去到唔知邊個BLOCK就轉細NOZZLE加強水壓...
6. 小弟水冷知識有限, 還有什麼細節事項呢?

hgcjeffrey

回復 11# FeverMike


    咁係冷排之後第一個出CPU BLOCK好D??
    其實差好少好少，個人覺得都係睇下水道點走會好睇D或者好走D比較實際

    還是將CPU BLOCK擺到最後好D??  
    其實分別真係唔大，最緊要都係水箱→泵，你睇下其他ching點走就知

    因為我之前見有D POST講D水去到唔知邊個BLOCK就轉細NOZZLE加強水壓...
    而家應該冇乜人會咁做，因為D5 or DDC 已經夠力，唔夠的話普遍再加多隻行就KO，
    而且EK有冷頭既設計係可以更換jet plates增加水阻水壓，當然效能會降低。


    還有什麼細節事項呢?
    小心荷包

Amuro0079

回復 1# FeverMike
1. 水泵應該選擇D5 OR DDC?
    Both are very good pumps;   D5 higher flow, DDC higher pressure (suitable for more restrictive loops)

2. 一個水泵是否足夠?
   如果1個冷排的話，1個泵已經夠
   Either of these pump is more than enough to handle a massive single loop w/  tons of 冷排's .   A second pump is only good for redundancy (one fails you still have another one), won't increase flow much. Koolance has a very nice dual bay reservoir that allows you do run two D5's in series.

3. 如果一個水泵是足夠, 水路應該點行法? (如次序, 是否要用T-LINE分水等......)
    As already been mention, reservoir -> pump to make sure that the pump will never run dry, the rest does not matter as the entire loop will reach a thermal equilibrium after a while, i.e, water temp stays the same across the entire loop.  Try to order your loop in a way to minimize tight bends and overall tubing length, and try to avoid using splitters (分水)  if possible because each one will cut your flow rate in half, and your entire system will run hotter.

4. NOZZLE/HOSE SIZE應該點選擇?
    I recommend either 3/8" ID 5/8" OD or 1/2" ID 3/4" OD compression fittings, some people use 7/16" ID ones but less common. Whatever size of compression fittings you use, make sure you match it with the hose.  There are two numbers, ID (inner diameter) and OD (outer diameter).

5. 上述配置是否使用單一NOZZLE/HOSE SIZE就可以?
    Same size for your entire cooling system

FeverMike

Thanks for the detailed advice from jeffrey and amuro!!
I will remember jeffrey said "小心荷包" XD

I would like to asked 4 more questions:
1.I am planning to use xspc's raystorm copper cpu block and
Ram block, koolance's R4E m/b full cover block, any comment
for this selection?

2.I would like to use single D5 pump, which brand of D5 pump recommended?

3.What brand and model of reservior and radiator recommended?

4.Where (or which hk online shop) could i buy/order koolance's stuff in hk?

FeverMike

Thanks for the detailed advice from jeffrey and amuro!!
I will remember jeffrey said "小心荷包" XD

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FeverMike 發表於 2012-2-12 14:25

For question 4, pls pm me if inappropriate to reply in the post, thx

leungwaiyin

小弟從未接觸水冷, 但正想為部電腦上水冷

小弟希望用的配置如下:
CPU BLOCK X1
XSPC/EK DOMINATOR RAM BLO ...
FeverMike 發表於 2012-2-11 17:36

成部電腦最熱係顯卡你唔上水,上RAM冇用,得個外觀..
每個HARDWAR最BASIC要一個240厚排(性價比暫時推薦XSPC EX系列)
上CPUX1+GPUX1要一個480或240X2
超頻另計
一般會用上水箱,有BUDGET限制先會用T LINE
另外你用咩機箱,咩硬件?
仲有你BUDGET幾多?
泵就冇咩所謂,你條loop都唔長得去邊.

hgcjeffrey

回復 14# FeverMike


Thanks for the detailed advice from jeffrey and amuro!!
I will remember jeffrey said "小心荷包" XD

I would like to asked 4 more questions:
1.I am planning to use xspc's raystorm copper cpu block and
Ram block, koolance's R4E m/b full cover block, any comment
for this selection?

Raystorm CPU block個人經驗唔好上太緊，格硬擰死嗰隻。
仲要小心個扣具唔好shock到底板。
Mb 同 ram block自己覺得好睇就ok,
ram block要注意自己係咪緊 DOMINATOR ，唔係要另外買野加上去，幾難搵下...

2.I would like to use single D5 pump, which brand of D5 pump recommended?
所有DDC同D5都係Liang出架，oem比水冷牌子貼貼子同包裝，基本上係一模一樣，
除左D5本身會分開調速版同冇調速版
DDC有分10W,18W 3.1,3.2,3.25版本。
反而揀Top比較重要。

3.What brand and model of reservior and radiator recommended?
第一，睇下你鐘意水樽定5.25" bay , 第二自己鍾意就ok,


4.Where (or which hk online shop) could i buy/order koolance's stuff in hk?
Koolanec好似得超痕專門店都埋a shop樓下有，並且唔齊，其他有人會pm你架喇

Amuro0079

回復 14# FeverMike
1.I am planning to use xspc's raystorm copper cpu block and
Ram block, koolance's R4E m/b full cover block, any comment
for this selection?
Great selection on CPU and motherboard blocks.  Personally I would not water-cool the RAM since it's considered a low heat source.  It's just not worth the hassle and the added restriction to the loop.

2.I would like to use single D5 pump, which brand of D5 pump recommended?
Doesn't really matter.  Koolance, Swiftech and Liang are all OK.  There is a stronger version of D5 called D5 Strong or Koolance PMP 450S that can operate on 24V.  But you would need a 24V pump controller to make it run at 24V, such as this:
http://www.koolance.com/water-co ... php?product_id=1169

Check out this article, it's pretty amazing at 24V:
http://martinsliquidlab.org/2011 ... 50s-d5-strong-pump/


3.What brand and model of reservior and radiator recommended?
HWLabs GTX series are the best performing radiators.  They outperform any other brand from mid-low to high fan RPM settings (basically above 800 RPM nothing can touch it).  In my previous built, I had a HWLabs GTX 480 radiator and it did a great job cooling  a 980X @4.13Ghz  and two GTX 480 SLI at 850/2000 with fans at around 1300 RPM.

These radiator review articles will help you decide:
http://skinneelabs.com/water-coo ... 12-radiator-review/

For reservoir, if you have two extra 5.25in bays, the Koolance RP-452X2 Dual 5.25in Reservoir for 1-2 PMP-450/S Pumps is very good.  Just make sure it's Rev. 2.0:
http://www.koolance.com/water-co ... php?product_id=2025

4.Where (or which hk online shop) could i buy/order koolance's stuff in hk?
Linke has Koolance stuff, but if you want to make sure everything is of the latest revisions, you may have to order them from Koolance directly.
http://linkecomputer.com/

If you want to import stuff from overseas, Performance-Pcs.com and FrozenCpu.com are my top choices.

Amuro0079

BTW, avoid EK water blocks if you can.  I will not buy anything from them again after their last year's nickel plating fiasco.  They blamed the users first for using silver coils or copper sulphate biocide additives, but it really was their cheap nickel plating process at fault.
http://www.bit-tech.net/news/har ... kel-plated-waterb/1

hgcjeffrey

置於冷排方面，其實風扇都好重要，要配合風扇使用，
例如效能比較好似black ice gtx系列，基本上要2000左右rpm先發揮到好表現，
而有D 600rpm下已經ok，例如xspc RX系列，以上兩款都係原排。
但XSPC有隻薄排(EX系列)做到係1200RPM下同RX系列只係相差0.3度。