本帖最後由 t101 於 2010-8-4 13:44 編輯

一直post唔到。

Phil,

我唔想同你長久戰。識學嘴學舌就真系唔creative。你唔再講翻topic上的野,我就無謂再回應,浪費其他人看貼時間。

只簡單post D fact.

1. 系,Netscape最後唔夠IE好。但系點解? 系M$用OS或其他地方賺翻黎o既profit,subsidize IE development,最後打死左Netscape。
就等如百佳惠康打減價戰,以本傷人,D細o既supermarket就死嗮,跟住就可以加翻價。完全系壟斷手法!

Microsoft quickly released several successive versions of Internet Explorer, bundling them with Windows, never charging for them, financing their development and marketing with revenues from other areas of the company. This period of time became known as the browser wars, in which Netscape Communicator and Internet Explorer added many new features (not always working correctly) and went through many version numbers (not always in a logical fashion) in attempts to outdo each other. But Internet Explorer had the upper hand, as the amount of manpower and capital dedicated to it eventually surpassed the resources available in Netscape's entire business. By version 3.0, IE was roughly a feature-for-feature equivalent of Netscape Communicator, and by version 4.0, it was generally considered to be more stable on Windows than on the Macintosh platform.
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Netscape could not compete with this strategy. In fact, it didn't attempt to. Netscape Navigator was not free to the general public until January 1998,[15] while Internet Explorer and IIS have always been free or came bundled with an operating system and/or other applications.

2. M$ 本來打算逼所有用戶只能用IE,美其名系”系統不可分割”功能。呢D手段系咩呢?比美國告比EU告,先俾個program你switch下個browser。

a) Internet Explorer 4, released in September 1997, deepened the level of integration between the web browser and the underlying operating system. Installing version 4 on a Windows 95 or Windows NT 4 machine and choosing Windows Desktop Update would result in the traditional Windows Explorer being replaced by a version more akin to a web browser interface, as well as the Windows desktop itself being web-enabled via Active Desktop. The integration with Windows, however, was subject to numerous packaging criticisms (see United States v. Microsoft). This option was no longer available with the installers for later versions of Internet Explorer but was not removed from the system if already installed.

b) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Removal_of_Internet_Explorer


3. 如果DOS有問題,系real mode到,其他software vendor發現問題,點都patch到,因為無protection。一到Windows,仲點得?M$有無 undocumented API, 系咪公平競爭?search下就好多。

http://www.groklaw.net/articlebasic.php?story=2007020819534335

4. 你講果D open只系片面,如果系potential competitor睇下點,仲open唔open?

最後,你可以繼續pro你個M$。但系,系可見o既將來,M$系smartphone同Xpad/tablet上系鬥唔過IOS同Android!
WP7都只系catching up,連cut&paste都無,真系無乜期望。

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一直post唔到。

Phil,

我唔想同你長久戰。識學嘴學舌就真系唔creative。你唔再講翻topic上的野,我就無 ...
t101 發表於 2010-8-4 13:40



    你繼續敗露出你連對人對事既基本尊重到冇. 正式宣佈你 You win 好唔好?

1. IE 技術上超越 Netscape, 當然會贏. 免費俾個慳電膽或者鎢絲膽你, 係人都揀慳電膽啦.
2. Microsoft 幾時有過咁樣既打算? Microsoft 從來都冇阻止過用戶安裝其他 browser 喎. 當時部份 Windows 功能用左 IE 既 rendering engine 去實現, 但唔係 web browser 黎架喎.
3. 一個巨型程式難免都會有 undocumented API, 係 Microsoft 獨有嗎?
http://ajaxian.com/archives/fire ... o-undocumented-apis
4. Microsoft Open Specification Promise
http://www.microsoft.com/Interop/osp/default.mspx
Microsoft Interoperability
http://www.microsoft.com/interop/

你自己越搬越多野出黎, 當然要預左被人逐一反駁. 當年 Microsoft 出 Xbox, 都大把人話佢鬥唔過 Sony/Nintendo.

你唔放下你既有色眼鏡係永遠唔會見到事實既全部.

Windows Phone 7 會有 copy and paste.
http://www.istartedsomething.com ... y-paste-eventually/

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算吧啦, netbook 都冇曬景啦, 冇曬景又何來取代?
應該話tablet 開拓左其他用戶市場

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回復  月南星

我又唔係咁睇, 如果以工作黎講, NETBOOK 對好多人都好重要, 簡簡單單一個 keyboard 已經殺 ...
springsonatahk 發表於 2010-8-4 20:44


你可能無睇過呢個 post 嘅78樓,睇咗先講...

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回復 116# springsonatahk

1. 其實我115樓回你114樓,係因為想你知道:“簡簡單單一個 keyboard 已經殺晒所有ipad/android tablet 啦....”呢句話講得太盡,不留餘地咁否決 iPad,點知其實 iPad 都可以用實體 keyboard 架啵。
2. 你講嘅好多野都無錯,因為到目前為止係 Netbook 真係做到你所講嘅功能,但係你又點知 iPad 係 2012 年會做唔到你所講嘅野呢?
3. Apple 慣例係1年更新一次產品,2012 年 iPad 應該出到第3代, 2年後嘅事有邊個會一定知係變成點?(其實大家都係估估下,不過我覺得 iPad 嘅前路較清晰,Netbook 就較模糊...)
4. 2010 年已經有 clamcase 呢類產品,我相信 2012 年會更多、更好。
5. 最後,Netbook 係 2012 年會變成點呢?有咩新創意、新功能呢?我並非想佢變差,但係我真係唸唔到佢仲有咩地方可以改變...你都唔想係2012年仲買到一部2010年嘅產品掛...

PS.
其實我無絕對支持 iPad,個人覺得 Apad(Android OS) 都係一個非常好嘅產品。
再其實我最希望嘅產品就好似我80樓講咗嘅咁樣,你可以去睇睇...

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回復 118# springsonatahk

算了,時間可以證明一切,大家一齊等啦...

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我相信,以目前market情況,

我唔會買D netbook唔裝得windows,其他OS唔考慮,因為功能會有限。
但亦唔會買tablet/Xpad行windows,只會選擇Android之類,因為簡單,省電同hardware要求低。

netbook個setup系可以做light weight task,有個keyboard。

但tablet定位唔同,touch keypad始終唔系o甘好打,而且平面工作系唔多舒服。
就算有個clamcase之類,亦好可能因為價錢問題而不能成為主流,除非標準化發生。(仲有,ipad個USB只系slave,駁個external HD都唔得,所以唔多睇好。Andriod就無問題。)

tablet/Xpad系要輕同續航力強,多output而少人為input o既應用情況下會有利。

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