bejeweledman

問題主要原因重係兩年内AMD》Intel，Intel有冇機會翻盤，重要睇架構+製程。當然，Intel有錢係事實。  個人 ...
Archvictoros 發表於 9/11/2019 13:46

希望出年四代Ryzen同RDNA2 GPU有加乘

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希望出年四代Ryzen同RDNA2 GPU有加乘
bejeweledman 發表於 2019-11-9 14:08

    Ryzen4000，簡稱Zen3，IPC同時邁有8%加成，傳聞clock會係而家Zen2水平+200-300MHZ（TSMC 7nm+技術加成），再加上L3cache 係共享唔在係2xCCXcores下分享（架構變左）。L3cache重會加大好多，可能係雙倍。以前3950X 16核=8+8核=32mb+32mb。 Zen3 係8+8核share 64mb（下年可能係128mb，未confirm）。
    RDNA2 網上消息代號Nvidia Killer ge Navi21，同23係第二代RDNA架構，會支援硬體級Ray-tracing。  希望係功耗效能比方面有改善（TSMC 7nm+加成）。  多數下年Q1-Q2發佈。
    Nvidia 下年Q1-Q2會出7nm（Samsung）Ampere 會支援PCI-E4.0同大幅改善功耗（clock rate+200-300mhz； samsung 7nm)同散熱能力（samsung 7nm）同時Ray-tracing效能大幅（架構變）增加。  3080TI=16GB GDDR6 3080同3070=12GB GDDR6(我希望用HBM2，雖然機會好低，因爲成本高），Vram 大幅增加。

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回覆 40# Archvictoros


9代輸zen 2 3~5% ipc，12核嘅fps同8核差唔多已經證明左目前繼續加核無乜效益。  加上ps5係8核，跟住落黎5年主流遊戲開發都會圍繞住8核，頂多會有個別公司嘗試去開發8核以上當技術驗證。i記製程奶嘢係一回事，但係技術開發速度無停低過，ice lake 15 年就已經完成左ip驗證，2019年a記先追上sky lake。單純靠製程嘅結果就係7nm打唔贏人地12nm。目前2020到2021都仲可以靠製程紅利，2022到時候好大機會係5/5P nm zen 5打7nm ocean cove，最後都係要靠架構硬撼。

Archvictoros

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    我買重AMD。  R9 3950X已訂，5年内唔會換機。（Zen5我先有機會換機。）   到時PCI-E 5.0同DDR5 都係AMD平臺都出了，Zen5 2022年絕對係重頭戯。 INTEL roadmap 2022-2023冇新產品（唔知係咪流料。）  請明白Intel，AMD位置已經調換，此Intel非彼Intel，Amd 也非以前ge AMD。  我懷疑Intel吹牛，一陣越過10nm直上7nm，而家話10nm量產成功，都唔知官方邊句真。  之前又強調8核芯地上最强打機CPU，跟住又搬游戲CPU延遲值出來講，真係好BullDozer。

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    roadmap去到2021，我講嘅ocean cove已經roadmap外嘅嘢

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    早就睇過。  你上網揾intel roadmap就明。  intel 同一架構會用兩年。  講難聽de，7nm兩年内搞掂係Intel吹牛。

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    2021嘅rocket lake係base on 2020嘅tiger lake，仲唔夠兩年？

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    2022以後roadmap,你睇左就明。Blue

Meteor Lake Coming In 2022
Intel will be using Comet Lake-S and Rocket Lake-S ranges, both of which are based on existing Skylake CPU architecture. This will be to plug the gap until Intel releases Meteor Lake in 2022. Sadly, this may come a bit too late as this will be three years after AMD is set to release their own 7nm CPUs. By the time 2022 comes around, we might have already had a whole year of 5nm chips from AMD – based on Zen 4 architecture.

There’s a reason AMD seems to be overtaking Intel. Intel will have a great deal of catching up to do in the future by the looks of it.

Meteor Lake’s architecture is still a little uncertain. We don’t know yet what Cores the 7nm Meteor Lake will have. Taking a wider look though, advanced Golden Cove design plus boosted AI and single-threaded performance boosts could give us some hints as to what to expect.
   source：https://www.wepc.com/news/intel-10nm-desktop/

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    rocket lake s係willow cove, gpu已經confirm係gen 12,gen 11 gpu係配sunny cove

Archvictoros

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    重點係你覺得Intel可以翻身？