問一問自己... "backup"嘅定義係乜?
點解要backup? backup要做到乜嘢程度嘅保障?

當你有晒以上答案, 咁你就知道raid並不是backup!

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原帖由 toylet 於 2009-10-4 21:22 發表

BTW, 到了現在有甚麼 cluster, cloud  computing....,
hardware 咁 cheap, 成個 server 來 mirror 方為上策!!!


Cheap ? cost is totally difference for using RAID vs Cluster / Cloud Computer....
Specially the Software and Managment...

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only prevent hardware failure and increase availability
but not prevent data corruption

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raid都算backup但d人(係epc學返來 )叫做hot backup
有cold backup同offsite backup

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原帖由 happy_gemini 於 2009-10-5 10:51 發表
問一問自己... "backup"嘅定義係乜?
點解要backup? backup要做到乜嘢程度嘅保障?

當你有晒以上答案, 咁你就知道raid並不是backup!


咁就順便問埋咩係backup既定義啦。
backup - 備用;備用物, 備用的, 【電腦】備份
如果係在單一硬碟發生問題時提供一個備份資料,RAID亦都係backup的一種方法。(RAID 0除外)
所以你呢個回覆根本就係廢up。

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原帖由 shiuyuen 於 2009-10-4 23:43 發表
Backup 的目的係備份
係喺意外事件時將DATA的損失減到最低
如果要減低Time gap, 可以將備份的間隔縮短
但始終都係會有gap的

另外, 備份有一個好處, Raid 1 係做 ...


無錯,就係如果在特定情況(例如單一硬碟失效),RAID 1,5,6可以提供到一個後備的資料回復。咁佢亦都係做到將資料減到最低。
同埋除了RAID外,仲有無其他方式的backup可以做到同RAID一樣的即時backup?
(例如我新增一個檔案,在RAID 1時就會同時寫入兩個硬碟,可以話已經係做了一個備份。)

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原帖由 MCHK001 於 2009-10-5 10:58 發表


所以我部行緊Raid 1既NAS要駁隻external harddisk每日定時定候做backup囉!


你咁做,每日都會有time gap,如果你有重要資料在果日入,然後就出現問題,你未做backup之前已經出現dataloss。咁就算有external harddisk每日定時定候做backup都無咩用。
當然,行RAID 1,5,6都可以一齊電死晒做成dataloss。

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原帖由 綠袖子 於 2009-10-6 04:42 發表


咁就順便問埋咩係backup既定義啦。
backup - 備用;備用物, 備用的, 【電腦】備份
如果係在單一硬碟發生問題時提供一個備份資料,RAID亦都係backup的一種方法。(RAID 0除外)
所以你呢個回覆根本就係廢up。


如果只係擺個英文字典嘅釋義出嚟就解釋到IT上嘅專用術語, 我估計所有大學可以將IT相關科目全部刪除啦.

依家係咪真係好興選擇性失明/失聰呢? 我提出3條問題, 你只選答1條(仲要答錯! ), 咁就話人廢噏, 真係唔知乜嘢叫做"廢"!

你喜歡quote定義, 我又quote番d俾你睇:
1. Backup is a copy of a file, directory or volume on a storage device created for the purpose of recovery in case the original data are accidentally erased, damaged, or destroyed.
(from: http://www.acronis.com/)
2. Definition: Data Backup is the physical copying of data files to a removable storage device that allows the data to be stored in another location. When needed, an individual data file or an entire set of data files, can be restored to a computer system.
(from: http://operationstech.about.com/)
3. In information technology, a backup or the process of backing up refer to making copies of data so that these additional copies may be used to restore the original after a data loss event. These additional copies are typically called "backups." The verb is back up in two words, whereas the noun is backup (often used like an adjective in compound nouns).
Backups are useful primarily for two purposes. The first is to restore a state following a disaster (called disaster recovery). The second is to restore small numbers of files after they have been accidentally deleted or corrupted.
Due to a considerable overlap in technology, backups and backup systems are frequently confused with archives and fault-tolerant systems. Backups differ from archives in the sense that archives are the primary copy of data, usually put away for future use, while backups are a secondary copy of data, kept on hand to replace the original item. Backup systems differ from fault-tolerant systems in the sense that backup systems assume that a fault will cause a data loss event and fault-tolerant systems assume a fault will not.
(from: http://en.wikipedia.org/)
4. Backup data: Duplicate (redundant) copy of data saved during a backup session, and available as replacement of damaged or lost primary data.
(from: http://www.businessdictionary.com/)
5. Duplicate copies of data on different storage media or additional hardware resources ready to take over if the main system fails. "Backup" (one word) is the noun, whereas "back up" (two words) is the verb. See backup types, backup file, backup & recovery, disaster recovery, fault tolerant and LAN free backup.
(from: http://dictionary.zdnet.com/)
仲有好多相關definition, 不勝枚舉...   

請問, raid符合以上定義?

如果你refer番去3) wiki嘅定義, 其實都有提到一般人會對於backup/archives/fault-tolerant system混淆, 而raid其實只係fault-tolerant system嘅一種.

最後我只係想講, raid本身獨立嚟睇並唔可以算係backup. 不過, 正如你另外提出, 亦未有完善嘅backup solution可以protect埋一d即時嘅data(無論個backup frequency幾頻密, 都會有漏洞, 係呢方面就需要raid作為一個complementary solution!

anyway, just a kind reminder... 大家只係討論, 可以客氣一d...

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